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AbbathTheGrim said:
sultanofpoon said:

BS what did they inflience at all? NAme 1 thing they did they would not be around had they not did it? They are the definition of generic, repetitive metal with cliche terrible lyrics.  Not to mention the worst solos known to man.

You are just a guy with an opinion. You come here like people everywhere else like to do and go and try to put your opinion out while claiming it somehow defines a band, as if your opinion would be an irrefutable messurement for the quality of things. Your opinion is just one in a sea of perspectives.

You take opions out and only facts remain, and the fact is that Slayer is one of the most influential Metal bands in Heavy Metal history. I doesn't matter how generic you believe them to be, it doesn't matter how bad you think their chaotic solos are, because there is a fact, and that fact is that bands cite them as influence and inspirations and it doesn't matter how overrated you think they are, the fact is that Slayer has helped shape Metal as it is now.

You want to know what has Slayer influenced?

Here you go:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slayer#Legacy

Not just in Metal, Slayer has been an influence outside of it:

http://music.cbc.ca/#!/blogs/2013/5/Slayers-lasting-electronic-and-hip-hop-influence

You came here and praised Iced Earth, didn't you:

sultanofpoon said:

Iced Earth, glad to see someone else mention them. They have been very underrated for years.

Well, look at what Jon Schaffer, founding member and current member of Iced Earth said about the Iced Earth sound:

"We're a metal band. That's what we are. We have every dynamic from Pink Floyd to Slayer and everything in between."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy72-nSh0s4

So yeah, you can keep on hating on Slayer all you want, you are entitled to your opinion, but your opinion won't make a single dent on the importance of Slayer in Metal.


Nothing he said has anything to do with being influenced or anything slayer innovated, he said they have sound like them and others LOL.

 

If slayer never existed all those bands would be here and metal would be the same today...they are a walking metal cliche, and everything that people sterotype metal to be. Bands liek Maiden, Metallica, megadeth did a lot more for metal in 1 album then slayer has in an entire career.



AbbathTheGrim said:
ReimTime said:

I see a lot of my favorites in here already and the list of albums I want to put here is way too big so I'll just embed some videos of what I'm currently listening to. Lots of good taste in here by the way!

Fear Factory vid

Fear Factory recently posted another new song from their upcoming album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=midnSfMs5Y8

I didn't like the previous one much but this one kind of clicked for me.

Meh I don't like the new Fear Factory as much. Demanufacture and Obsolete are it for me



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sultanofpoon said:

Nothing he said has anything to do with being influenced or anything slayer innovated, he said they have sound like them and others LOL.

 

If slayer never existed all those bands would be here and metal would be the same today...they are a walking metal cliche, and everything that people sterotype metal to be. Bands liek Maiden, Metallica, megadeth did a lot more for metal in 1 album then slayer has in an entire career.

Yeah, you go and ignore all those bands that cite Slayer as an influence. Say how you can see into parallel realities and with godly powers substract Slayer and still see Metal yielding the same results. You are just one of those people that think that just by not liking a band that makes them discardable. You can't see beyond two inches in front of your own reflection.

Jon Schaffer compared Iced Earth's sound to Slayer, that makes Slayer an original sound to be identified with. Yet you call them generic.

Keep on hating on Slayer, you don't make a single dent on their legacy that is backed by several bands that are part of Metal's history, in spite of your dismissing of Slayer, a dismissing from a simple guy in the Internet.

ReimTime said:

Meh I don't like the new Fear Factory as much. Demanufacture and Obsolete are it for me

Yeah, they have gone downhill. But if you listen to their previous new song, that one I posted doesn't sound that bad.



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ReimTime said:
AbbathTheGrim said:
ReimTime said:

I see a lot of my favorites in here already and the list of albums I want to put here is way too big so I'll just embed some videos of what I'm currently listening to. Lots of good taste in here by the way!

Fear Factory vid

Fear Factory recently posted another new song from their upcoming album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=midnSfMs5Y8

I didn't like the previous one much but this one kind of clicked for me.

Meh I don't like the new Fear Factory as much. Demanufacture and Obsolete are it for me

Do you like their first album? I thought that one (and the demo version) was pretty good too.



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VGPolyglot said:
ReimTime said:

Meh I don't like the new Fear Factory as much. Demanufacture and Obsolete are it for me

Do you like their first album? I thought that one (and the demo version) was pretty good too.


It's pretty good too; I'd probably place it third out of their albums; tbh haven't listened to much of the new stuff though, just Mechanize, which is in a battle with Soul for 3rd place



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sundin13 said:
I like metal, but not the same sub-genres as most of the stuff you posted. My favorite band that would be classified as metal would be Protest the Hero (Progressive Metal):

I'm surprised that there was someone else here that listened to Protest the Hero.



MDMAlliance said:
sundin13 said:
I like metal, but not the same sub-genres as most of the stuff you posted. My favorite band that would be classified as metal would be Protest the Hero (Progressive Metal):

I'm surprised that there was someone else here that listened to Protest the Hero

I've listened to PTH since I was in Grade 7 man XD one of my favorites. Always used to blast Fortress in the computer lab when I played Bloons Tower Defense hahaha



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I grew up with metal in the 80s...well most everybody here did. There were two types of people: those that listen to metal and those that listen to punk as a primary choice, but we all listened to both.

We all still remember trading cassettes with brand new albums, sometimes you could barely hear the music because it was a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, and sometimes you could hear several layers of music when the cassette got copied over too many times.
Dual deck cassette recorders were a must.

Needless to say, we listened to everything...start off with Motorhead, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and the rest of melodic British metal, than move to German thrash/speed (Sodom, Kreator, Destruction...) and the rest of Europe (Celtic Frost, Merciful Fate/King Diamond, Bathory...)
Of course, American thrash was important (Slayer, Megadeth, Metallica, Exodus, Overkill, Anthrax, Exciter, Testament, Venom, Voivod...)
Later came some great bands like Sepultura, Ratos de Porao, Pantera, Machinehead, C.O.C.

I never really got into Death, I did like Morbid Angel, and of course Napalm Death was a must with their grindcore 30 second a piece blurbs, but once Deicide and Cannibal Corpse rolled in I couldn't do that...

Metal is still my primary choice, but I don't listen to any new stuff, I prefer to revisit my youth, so just yesterday I downloaded best of Megadeth and Iron Maiden to listen to in my car.

And I still have a huge collection of LPs that just sit there in the attic. All Iron Maidens up to 1990, all Judas Priests also, Sepultura, Celtic Frost, Helloween, and hundreds more.



episteme said:
Yeah, but not really unknown bands and mostly their 80s albums, for example:

Iron Maiden
Slayer
Metallica
Kreator
Helloween
Megadeth
Pantera
Anthrax
Sepultura
Queensrÿche
Dio


And some older pioneering stuff like:

Led Zeppelin
Deep Purple
Black Sabbath


And finally some newer stuff:

Tool
Dream Theater
Rage Against the Machine
Nevermore

Well, I see that you are very similar to me... In calling those four bands newer stuff :))

To me, everything after 1988 is newer, I am just that old...