Tagging this for a read later on but looking at the likes of Splatoon shocking Iwata with the success of a more western game without even having to roll out the big mustached guns to get people to buy it, I wonder will they now be more open if a dev wants to go a bit more western with their games in the workshop.

Rather sad to hear that team got their ideas shit on because they "weren't Japanese" but I mean it's Nintendo's call at the end of the day, they're the ones who's name is on the top of the box and if they felt the game isn't a reflection of what that brand at the time was about then it was up to them to try to "cute" it up.

As for the fact that the game is not fun during dev... well... I'm sure if the makers of something have their hands tied the whole time while trying to build something surely they can't be too much to blame if it isn't fun, as for their previous games, I thought Hunters was pretty cool considering it was running on a combined 66/33mhz set of arm processors with what? 4mb of ram, the game was a smooth functional fps with multiplayer that worked.

the environment looks good. i think it shouldn't really be used for a wiimote. there are a lot of hack n slash game out there and it is fun. it should have catered to that genre. but knowing nintendo and changing it to that cartoony is really a disrespect to the developers.

Lets face it. Nintendo knows a fun game when they play it. If they felt that it couldn't be saved, then it couldn't be saved.

Wii Music, Hey You Pikachu, Star Fox Adventures, Star Fox Assault, everything they did for the Virtual Boy and the Virtual Boy itself :) Even almighty Rare had its share of turds Nintendo happily published like Mickey's Speedway USA and Perfect Dark for the GBC. Project HAMMER looks much better than all that crap I listed. I'm sure people will think about other titles as well. You can include Federation Force right now if you want.

Ever play Wii Music? Its not that bad. Its a fun diversion for casual players. Hey You Pikachu was made with children in mind, and my brother loved it. I actually liked the Star fox spinoffs, and the Virtual Boy was a political move to get Gunpei Yokoi out of Nintendo. On some fundamental level, Nintendo knows what a fun game is. Its just that some concepts are better than others.

That's not the issue at all.

Wii Music "not that bad". Yeah right... You liked the Star Fox spinoffs... well, guess what? Those games are bad. Your brother was 1 y/o. Now that's an expensive way to get rid of someone. I'd just fire him. Do you really believe that? Nintendo invested millions on a system so it would bomb and be the perfect excuse to get rid of the guy? Man... really? Just accept the fact that the Virtual Boy was a terribly conceived product. No wait! Maybe you're right! Its happening again with the Wii U. That's why Miyamoto has been removed from hardware development. They wanted to get rid of him and the Wii U was created as the perfect excuse! My God! Now that's a conspiracy. Much better than the 9/11 holographic missiles! Since you didn't mention Mickey's Speedway USA and Perfect Dark for the GBC I believe you agree those are bad. Well, at least 2 games!

Ok lets say this Japanese manager dude let this game go through, and the game was terrible, and universally panned by critics and it bombed. It would have most likely have had this studio end up in the same place. Even if it was good most likely it wouldn't have sold. Other devs tried to make other games they thought that would appeal to western taste that did bad. The Conduit comes to mind. And Mad World, and No More Heroes etc. Wii just didn't have the audience for it.

Gunpei Yokoi was the father of the Gameboy. He had too much pull within the company. It took a political move like the Virtual boy to remove him from the scene.

You're speculating. And very cruel tbh. You just want the game to be bad so Nintendo is right. Simple as that.