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Of course, the real game-changer here is performance. For the first time, Halo 5 is built from the ground up with 60fps gameplay in mind. However, the question of whether 343 can hit that target with an acceptable level of consistency is still open to question, based on the E3 showing. While last year's multiplayer beta turned in relatively solid frame-rates, the conference campaign footage raises some concerns. Based on the demo, it seems that the target is a 'perceptual' 60fps experience more in line with the Call of Duty titles. That is, while the target remains 60fps, performance levels often dip below during action sequences.

The current dynamic frame resolution system can actually be observed in more detail within the 'Road to E3' video published on the Halo Channel a few weeks back, and embedded below. It provides a closer look at the game in a debug state, complete with important performance statistics visible on-screen, as the camera is flown in and around the environment. We can see the horizontal resolution apparently shift dynamically between a full 1920 all the way down to 832 pixels. With 810 vertical lines in play we're looking at a resolution ranging from 1920x810 to 832x810. However, in b-roll distributed during E3, minimum resolution observed comes in at 1152x810 - not exactly wonderful but presumably more indicative of where the system is right now during gameplay.

In many ways, Halo 4 felt like a passing of the torch from Bungie to 343 Industries: a transition both in terms of technology and design. 343's debut put the stake in the ground, it was the starting point from which future titles would be defined. With Halo 5, the transition is complete. The Master Chief's next outing is 343 Industries through and through, a creation that casts aside many of its Bungie roots in favour of a fresh take on the classic gameplay, forged through years of experience. The multiplayer beta released late last year gave us a taste of these changes with a newfound focus on performance, innovative gameplay features, and new technology while the E3 demo further cements this new focus. If the final game can deliver on the promise of a stable 60fps frame-rate across all modes while offering compelling mission design, we could be looking at one of the best shooters of the year.

 

 

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-can-halo-5-deliver-on-its-60fps-promise



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Makes me wonder how come people expect 4k in next gen.



daredevil.shark said:
Makes me wonder how come people expect 4k in next gen.

The only time i've ever heard any one mention 4k gaming on current gen its a few deluded Xbox players. Most of us know that isn't going to happen on either console. As far as the article goes, i don't think they'll have issues getting the MP to a solid 60fps, SP they might just end up dropping to 30fps if it's too much of a hassle. Also are they saying the E3 demo ran below 720p at certain points?



FIT_Gamer said:
daredevil.shark said:
Makes me wonder how come people expect 4k in next gen.

The only time i've ever heard any one mention 4k gaming on current gen its a few deluded Xbox players. Most of us know that isn't going to happen on either console. As far as the article goes, i don't think they'll have issues getting the MP to a solid 60fps, SP they might just end up dropping to 30fps if it's too much of a hassle. Also are they saying the E3 demo ran below 720p?

Very classy homie. And we all know that Xbox fans are all about 1080p 60fps ramblings.



Remember COD AW, when it was showed at E3 2014. The compare it too a few months later. The game is still in its late alpha stage, generally when optimization really starts. People always forget about this. Anyway the FPS is far better than what COD AW showed at its E3 conference, and thus should almost be at a locked 60 FPS by the end of development (COD AW was almost locked on the XB1 as well). As for resolution, well I really don't know. Best case scenario sees it at 1920x810, while the wrost case is 1152x810. At this point, 1080p may not be reached, by 60 FPS sure will.



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Goatseye said:

 Very classy homie. And we all know that Xbox fans are all about 1080p 60fps ramblings.

 

Unless your one of of those few deluded Xbox fans you shouldn't have taken offense to that. I still stand by what i said. A certain group of Xbox bloggers and xbox dedicated youtube channels have all recently been talking about a 4k gaming on Xbox One. Specifically since that video of WoT dev talking about them using 4k assets for the Xbox One version of the game. 



Guys, what if Halo 5 is 480i at 20 fps with constant d/c and massive 10k pings anytime you're in online matchmaking? What would the reaction be!?



FIT_Gamer said:

Goatseye said:

 Very classy homie. And we all know that Xbox fans are all about 1080p 60fps ramblings.

 

Unless your one of of those few deluded Xbox fans you shouldn't have taken offense to that. I still stand by what i said. A certain group of Xbox bloggers and xbox dedicated youtube channels have all recently been talking about a 4k gaming on Xbox One. Specifically since that video of WoT dev talking about them using 4k assets for the Xbox One version of the game. 

Poiting out you classless remarks is not taking offense. it looks like they rustled your jimmies instead.



No one rustled my jimmies just pointing out an observation. Classy or not for those that think they will get 4k gaming on these consoles on any games that aren't Atari quality are deluded.



Goatseye said:
FIT_Gamer said:
daredevil.shark said:
Makes me wonder how come people expect 4k in next gen.

The only time i've ever heard any one mention 4k gaming on current gen its a few deluded Xbox players. Most of us know that isn't going to happen on either console. As far as the article goes, i don't think they'll have issues getting the MP to a solid 60fps, SP they might just end up dropping to 30fps if it's too much of a hassle. Also are they saying the E3 demo ran below 720p?

Very classy homie. And we all know that Xbox fans are all about 1080p 60fps ramblings.

I assume he's referring to people like misterxmedia (4k gaming on the X1 being one of his more recent claims). He's certainly the only person I've personally seen make such claims, though i don't doubt there are Sony equivalents out there (just lacking misterxmedia's audience and notoriety).