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What gen will the Nintendo NX be a part of?

8th gen 71 25.45%
 
8.5th gen 100 35.84%
 
9th gen 108 38.71%
 
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JRPGfan said:
Wyrdness said:
daredevil.shark said:

Sorry. But its not 9th gen console if its weaker than Xbox One / PS4. Release time, power and other credentials just dont allow it to be part of 9th gen.


According to whom? Gens are defined by order of which a new platform is released and nothing else, it's 9th gen because it succeeds an 8th gen console.

Then is Xbox One only 3rd gen? Is PS4 only the 4th gen? we call these consoles... 8th gen consoles.

Because what gen a console belongs to is determined by its time frame, and competitors.

 

Nintendos NX console will compete against the 8th gen consoles, for probably 80% of its life... that makes it a 8th gen console.


What are you talking about Xbox 1 succeeds a 7th gen console, are you just looking for an argument? Gens start when a new hardware comes outs, NES was a 3rd gen console despite being Nintendo's first, SNES would then be a 4th gen suceeding it.

Mega Drive for a long time competed against the NES but it still was a 4th gen console because it succeeded the Master System a 3rd gen console. Under the logic you're using DC is a 5th gen console because it competed against the N64 and PS1 for a while.



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I don't even think the successor the the NX would be considered 8th generation :P

Only kidding :) In all seriousness the NX might have it's own thing going on in that it may act as an intermediate between the Wii U and a true successor to the Wii U. We still don't know if it will be a dedicated home console or if it will be a console/handheld hybrid(although the economics of such a premise would be almost impossible). It is disappointing that Nintendo are talking about the NX so much though whilst the Wii U has no real new game reveals. It reminds me of when Nintendo started talking about the Gamecube(code named Dolphin back then) and pretty much all support for the Nintendo 64 went out the door. This was like 3 and a bit years into the N64s life too which was disheartening to a gamer whose only console at the time was the N64.



that is why, for me, its always just last gen, current gen, next gen... now nx is next gen, after it comes out it starts to be current gen and wii u starts to be last gen.



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Ka-pi96 said:

Just curious about it since it seems like the NX isn't going to fit that well in to how generations have worked previously.

Take generations as literal and unique to each company and the NX would be 8thgen, PS5 5th gen and Xbox ? 4th gen. Although I don't think anyone ever describes generations that way.

Take generations as periods of time (seems most, if not all, people do this) and the NX is likely to release at a really awkward time. A couple years earlier and it would definitely be 8th gen, a couple years later definitely 9th gen. But where it is makes it difficult. Of course this may well end up a short gen for PS/Xbox as well and then suddenly it fits perfectly again.

Take generations as relative to its competition, again most people do this, but in all previous gens it has worked perfectly alongside the above definition so no one has really questioned it. The NX however kind of sticks out here, will it compete more with the PS4/Xbox One or with the PS5/Xbox ?. There are arguments for both sides, although of course like the above one we won't know for sure until all is said and done anyways so it may well be that it does fit in to the existing definitions perfectly again.

Also just to clarify I'm not really leaning towards 8th or 9th gen at the moment. I think there are arguments for both depending on how you define a generation. Hopefully as time goes on it will be made more clear and there won't be any need to debate it, however if it isn't does that perhaps mean the whole system of categorising consoles in to generations needs to be rethought rather than just where to put the NX?

It's possible it has a different designation interally, but I've never heard anyone refer to a console maker's generations in a vacuum. Sony's first home console is looked back on as a 5th gen platform, despite being available for two years prior to Nintendo releasing their 5th gen home console. It competed for some time against the SNES, and yet I don't recall anyone questioning if it was a 4th gen platform. They went on to release their next platform around a year and a half prior to the competition, which is pretty much unanimously considered the first 6th gen platform.

I don't believe competition has as much to do with the distinction outside of the initial platform. Otherwise, we'd have unique handheld generation numbers. When you consider that the 3DS and PS4 are both 8th generation devices, it seems clear that the generation label really doesn't have anything to do with the specifications of the device, timeframe of release, or even if the two devices are direct competitors. Generations, as far as I can tell, are basically just an iterative label that starts with when the platform holder entered the market.



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KylieDog said:

It would only be 8th if you count Wii as 6th.

You either count gens by performance, where GC and Wii are 6th, Wii U 7th, NX 8th, or by chronological release, so Wii 7th, Wii U 8th, NX 9th.


You never count gens by performance unless you don't understand where the term "generation" originates.

There is however one way in which the NX might legitimately be considered 8th gen. If the next Nintendo console (after NX) has a launch close in time to the next Playstation/Xbox/whatever then we would be right to consider NX 8th gen. The console after NX would certainly be 9th gen and not 10th gen so you can see how that works. This is probably also true even if there is no Nintendo successor but NX releases closer to Wii U than PS5/Nexbox/whatever. There is no exact science to it but for most consoles it has been pretty obvious what generation they belong to (including Wii which is obviously a 7th gen console and Wii U which is obviously an 8th gen one)



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In a gaming context gens are usually defined as a period of time where console manufacturers release new platforms to compete with each other ...

In this case the NX would be considered an 8th gen platform since Nintendo is still competing with PS4/X1 and not PS5/X2 ...

There's no good reason to see it as an early 9th gen console either since Nintendo's competitors are not looking at a shorter lifetime nor will they be able to release a platform with significant performance advantages to differentiate against other 8th gen platforms ...



It'll replace 3DS to be the first ninth Gen console.



Ka-pi96 said:

Why do people always forget about Nintendo's 1st gen console the Colour TV-Game?


Technically it's not their console, it's licensed from another company can't remember who.



Technically it will be 9th gen but it will be considered less than that by a lot of gamers.



Gen means how many unique systems a company made since two systems before NES it can't be anything else than 9th gen in therms of power I doubt it will match the PS4



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