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CWegzz on 02 July 2015

I honestly believe this. The reason why Nintendo wanted to focus this year's e3 on games in late 2015/early 2016 is because there are no Wii U or 3DS games coming late 2016 because the NX will be released by then. All late 2016 releases are on NX.  Nintendo needs to move on from the Wii U asap and they know it.



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se7en7thre3 on 02 July 2015

April '16 direct console reveal, couple months later an E3 intro to NX and launch games, then release the same yr. - would not surprise me.



Miyamotoo on 02 July 2015
spemanig said:
JRPGfan said:

I like the fusion concept... and with the way nintendos handhelds sell... this could be the one game console from nintendo you dont want to miss out on.

Also if theyre going for the same game library as the handheld version, only at higher resolutions.... its probably not going to be the biggest monster in terms of hardware costs. So we re probably looking at a cheap system to buy.


If by cheap, you mean like $250, I definitely don't agree. If by cheap you mean like $300, maybe. I'm still betting it'll be like $350-$400, though. Most games this gen are possible on last gen hardware anyway. I think the NX console version of games will be like the PS4/XBO version of a cross-gen game while the NXDS version will be like the PS360(WiiU) versions.

It's not that NXDS games will scale up to the NX, but that NX games will scale down to the NXDS. 

Recent Nintendo talk that they not pursuing high specs and that they want to "create a system that is both unique and affordable so that everyone can afford it and everyone can enjoy it.".

So yes, they probably will target price point around $250 without high power and I think it is one hardware hybrid of handheld and home console.



Miyamotoo on 02 July 2015
kristianity77 said:
The thing is, even if it does release in 2016, unless it absolutely thumps the Xbox or PS4 in terms of raw power, just who in the hell is this thing going to attract? I mean, you would hazard a guess that 2016 and 2017 will be the peak of the PS4/Xbox lifespan in terms of software, so who are they aiming this at? If they are wanting people to shift from Wii U to this then great, there is your first 10 million sales over a period of a year at absolute best but then who else do you target?

People who want new and different experience with games that can't be found on other systems at affordable price!?

I think it's a sort of hybrid, handheld with screen and controls that can be can be connected on TV and use it like home console too, basically handheld and home console in one hardware, hybrid, it would target handheld and home users at same time. I think about $250 price, maybe even $200, but certainly not $300.



Miyamotoo on 02 July 2015
BlkPaladin said:

Reading on that article posted on the reliability of the source, the conclusion basically sums it up:

"Mundane or logical-sounding Digitimes rumors usually amount to more than eyebrow-raising ones. If it says that Apple’s going to use LED backlighting in MacBooks or add video playback to iPods — well, there’s a decent chance that Apple will. But if it reports that the company will ditch LCDs for OLEDs or equip Macs with touch-screens, don’t assume that its sources know what they’re talking about.

Rumors from parts suppliers are imprecise, even when there’s something there. When Digitimes first wrote about iPhones with gyroscopes and iPads with Retina displays, the main thing it got wrong was the timing — they showed up a year after it expected them to arrive.

Digitimes rarely does anything other than to simply pass along gossip it’s heard. It almost always relays rumors without any analysis or context that might help readers gauge them. At least I only found one instance — when it reported on an alleged OLED iPad — when it expressed any skepticism."

And this rumor sounds little more then click bait gossip from a low level parts supplier. It seems also they are usually a year or more off of a lot of the rumors they are correct on. The last paragraph goes even further to say that it's just better to ignore them until someone else independantly varifies them, since they are wrong so often.

The Source listed again (orginally from Hedra42): http://techland.time.com/2012/05/14/digitimes-apple-rumors/2/

So take this with a grain of salt.

 

ohmylanta1003 said:
Soundwave said:
Regarding Apple there likely is much more disinformation with Apple because everyone and their grandma is obsessed with breaking anything new about the latest iPhone or iPad. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple themselves actively distributes false disinformation.

Apple is kind of their own industry beast, I doubt getting a scoop on a Nintendo system is really all that much of a hot ticket to anyone other than like Nintendo fans.


Why don't you just accept that Digitimes is not a consistantly reliable source and we should probably not take this article too seriously?

 

I follow Digitmes on daily basis (part of my job), and I can say that they are pretty reliable, but of course they can mistake but that isn't so often.

I think that there is some truth in this report about Nintendo.



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Conina on 02 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:

I follow Digitmes on daily basis (part of my job), and I can say that they are pretty reliable, but of course they can mistake but that isn't so often.

I think that there is some truth in this report about Nintendo.

"Sony to start production of PS4 at end of 2011, say Taiwan makers
Aaron Lee, Taipei; Adam Hwang, DIGITIMES [Monday 4 July 2011]

Sony will have Taiwan-based partners begin production of PlayStation 4 (PS4) featuring body movement-based control like Kinect at the end of 2011 for launch in 2012, according to Taiwan-based component makers.

Foxconn and Pegatron Technology, assemblers of PS3, will undertake assembly of PS4 as well, the sources pointed out. The planned shipment volume of PS4 in 2012 is at least 20 million units, the sources indicated."

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http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110704PD202.html

That false "diginews" of 2011 is very similar to the new NX-speculation, both rumours are from Aaron Lee.  

I'm expecting NX-hardware for November 2016, but not based on this digitimes-rumour. The window between console/handheld announcement and launch gets smaller and smaller each generation, many people are expecting new products soon after the announcement nowadays (tablets and smartphones are catalysts for these expectations) and Nintendo won't risk the Osborne effect again with its new hardware generation.



Frogger on 02 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:

Recent Nintendo talk that they not pursuing high specs and that they want to "create a system that is both unique and affordable so that everyone can afford it and everyone can enjoy it.".

So yes, they probably will target price point around $250 without high power and I think it is one hardware hybrid of handheld and home console.


They never said they weren't pursuing high specs. Miyamoto said he wasn't interested in having the best hardware. To completely different things. Nintendo aren't interested in a spec race. That's all.

The PS4 proves that $400 is plenty affordable. While I can see a $300-$350 system, a $250 console ain't happenin'.



Soundwave on 02 July 2015

Knowing Nintendo it will be less powerful on paper, but still capable of producing decent looking visuals.

300 GFLOPS for the portable w/2GB RAM
700 GFLOPS for the home unit w/4GB RAM
Both use the same family of mobile parts, home unit is over-clocked variant with more CPU/GPU cores.
Cheap, very power efficient
New Controller Gimmick/Novelty

Nintendo is not going to compete with Sony. There's no plausible path to victory there for them, or at least they have convinced themselves fully of that. 

I'd be willing to pay more for something more powerful, but I don't think Nintendo really cares about that. 



Bfriedli on 02 July 2015

Very plausible. Nes launched in July in Japan, N64 June in Japan, Snes August for US. Iwata said to investors "The platform business can sometimes be referred to as a 'momentum business,'" Iwata told another investor. "Thus, it is ideal to have a jump start and drive momentum. Looking back at some of Nintendo’s past platforms"
What a better way to jump start and keep momentum. You have E3 in June to get you excited, then they tell you it release the next month (July) along with Zelda. It being summer time sales will be good and when they start to die off around September you release a big title to keep momentum, then you have the holidays to keep momentum thru.
All this, leak of suppose July release, Zelda Delay with no E3 footage, sales slumping badly, momentum talk, past platforms, multiple rumors of 2016 release date. Make me think it's very plausible.



Aerys on 02 July 2015
Soundwave said:
Aerys said:
That would really be disgusting for WiiU and confirm why there arr no more announcements, to released a console in 2016, that means thé WiiU is dead for tvem since 2014 since an average ambitious game takes at least 2 years of developpement


Did you think the first XBox or GBA were "disgusting"? Also why is it ok to have a console with a 6/7/8 year life cycle? Going too long is a-ok, but a year short is the end of the world? 


Because WiiU library is super small and they make US understand its already dead even if we dont know yet

 

Even Xbox bad a better library, GBA too



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