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JOKA_ said:
Hynad said:

Do you really believe that? xD

uhhh....yes.  Sony has the money to do research and development for these products.....but instead they are asking for the consumers to put the cash up first


To gauge interest. They're not asking people to cover their entire $5b R&D annual budget (lol).They're trying to make that invested money go where the market's interest is. Meaning they will end up investing in ideas that people are actually interested to buy, instead of wasting it all on stuff that never go passed the concept form.



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Hynad said:
onionberry said:

I'm not saying that big companies are bad wtf, I'm saying "hey, consumers should not fund anything for billionaire companies" easy as that, you don't need any scientific maths to see the point. But if you feel about it then be happy and don't worry.


So I was right on my very first reply to you. Glad you agree.


why so personal? Is sony your girlfriend?

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Normchacho said:
So...what is the downside here exactly?

Sony gets to see a bunch of new ideas for products and the public's' reaction to them before making any serious investment.
Sony employees get a chance to be more creative and possibly see one of their ideas become a real consumer product.
Everybody else (in Japan at least) gets the opportunity to see what these ideas are and can choose to help decide what ends up on the market, plus, assuming the funding is successful, you'd be one of the first people to get said product and get to say you helped make it happen.

On top of all that, it means Sony can show off products that otherwise might be seen as too risky to invest time and money in and let people decide if they want it or not.

Overall it means less risk for Sony, more freedom and opportunity for their employees, and more of a say in what kind of products the company offers for their customers.

The downside is that the consumer is footing the bill. This is great for sony.



onionberry said:
Hynad said:


So I was right on my very first reply to you. Glad you agree.


why so personal? Is sony your girlfriend?


You have labeled everyone here who's ok with it as zombies. 

You have always continually flamed people on VGC when they don't see things your way.



So this means that if a project or idea doesn't reach its funding level, Sony get to keep the cash and the project is scrapped? Have I understood it correctly then?



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onionberry said:
Hynad said:


It's not stupid. In this day and age, where projects cost millions upon millions to create, a crowdfunding campaign can be used to gauge potential interest, which in turn allow companies to see if an item is worth spending on or not. Surely, you haven't lived under a rock the last few years and saw many companies going under because of failed projects... 

But sure, go on and flame people by calling them zombies. That should get you far.

not my problem, I'm not a shareholder nor an investor. Funding a product for a multimillionaire company, just wow. Again, zombies are ok with that, I'm a Nintendo fan but I'm not going to fund their next gimmick or their next zelda.

Welcome to the game industry, where consumers pay to be beta testers of F2P games, buy products months before they can actually know what they are buying and now, last but not least, fund multi millionaire companys for them.



vkaraujo said:
onionberry said:

not my problem, I'm not a shareholder nor an investor. Funding a product for a multimillionaire company, just wow. Again, zombies are ok with that, I'm a Nintendo fan but I'm not going to fund their next gimmick or their next zelda.

Welcome to the game industry, where consumers pay to be beta testers of F2P games, buy products months before they can actually know what they are buying and now, last but not least, fund multi millionaire companys for them.

And here's an other one who hasn't read the OP.



Hynad said:
JOKA_ said:

uhhh....yes.  Sony has the money to do research and development for these products.....but instead they are asking for the consumers to put the cash up first


To gauge interest. They're not asking people to cover their entire $5b R&D annual budget (lol).They're trying to make that invested money go where the market's interest is. Meaning they will end up investing in ideas that people are actually interested to buy, instead of wasting it all on stuff that never go passed the concept form.


lol of course not.  I'm talking about a product by product basis.

The risk that the consumer is taking on is more than just gauging interest.  Projects get delayed, they change course, and yes they fail, it happens.  There is nothing wrong with that...except in this case its the consumers money going down the drain instead of the big corporations.

EDIT: Made my points clearer



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Hynad said:
onionberry said:


why so personal? Is sony your girlfriend?


You have labeled everyone here who's ok with it as zombies. 

You are continually flaming people on VGC when they don't see things your way.


what? it's my opinion about those who fund things for billionaire companies, not about those who disagree with my opinion at vgchartz. continually flaming? really? just wow, the internet is more dramatic than a relationship.



Hynad said:
JOKA_ said:

uhhh....yes.  Sony has the money to do research and development for these products.....but instead they are asking for the consumers to put the cash up first


To gauge interest. They're not asking people to cover their entire $5b R&D annual budget (lol).They're trying to make that invested money go where the market's interest is. Meaning they will end up investing in ideas that people are actually interested to buy, instead of wasting it all on stuff that never go passed the concept form.

Most companies already do this. It is called marketing research and they fund it themselves.