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Miguel_Zorro said:
Total GDP for country isn't relevant in this case. We're talking about the ability of individuals to afford a video game console. Per Capita GDP is what matters.


Even in that scenario, china is not poor. Their middle class and rich can afford gaming as hobby. Maybe their poor can too. Just about everyone spends a lot of money on entertaining themselves. 



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China is not a poor country. A large part of its population is rich. The limited library of PS4 and XB1 in China does not help though.



550k is still a decent addition to the total userbase. Yes if gaming caught on in china like it has elsewhere we would be talking about 50 mil+. But still worthwhile at this rate.



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Some people had crazy optimism about the opening up of China's console market. Having family in China, it was pretty obvious to me how this would go down. Grey imports are big in China and have been for ages, they are also much cheaper. So anyone who wanted a PS4 or XB1 when they were released could have got one. Plus, PC and mobile is KING over there, in a country with rampart piracy PC is the perfect platform.

People talking about poverty are forgetting how massive their population is and the level of income inequality. Go to a place like Shanghai where every 3-4 non-taxi car is a Merc or BMW or Maserati and count the number of Prada and Louis Vuitton stores there are, there is tens of millions of quite wealthy Chinese people who would easily have the income to buy consoles if they wanted to.



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Its what most of us expected. Sony and MS probably can't even promote their consoles over there.



    

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There's a chance that PS4 can pick up on sales eventually. We just need to wait for our Chinese friends to go out and protest once again against our friends in Japan over the Senkaku Islands and wait for them to buy PS4s to then have them burnt on the streets.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

Nuvendil said:
bunchanumbers said:


Really? Nintendo should have invested more than that. Using a N64 to gauge interest when some of the best games Nintendo made were on Wii U? They should have launched the GCN there. And I still think that they should launch Wii U there. They just need to lower the price, or cut the gamepad and make a system that works with the Pro Controller.

I said it launched in 2003, that's well before the Wii U :P .  And disposable income in 2003 in China was on average far lower than it is now so the 2003 GameCube with a very limited library wouldn't have been able to get down to the needed price point without becoming completely unprofitable.

As for launching the Wii U, why?  It has been available on the grey market and in Hong Kong for a long time, doesn't have a big enough library to drive down the price, and the Ps4 and Xbone just failed in the region.  There's no empirical evidence to suggest that China is a secure investment.

Wii U may not have a big library, but it would have almost all of its library allowed through censors. PS4 and X1 failed because almost all of their games are illegal in China. Wii U doesn't have this problem. I don't think it would have been a smashing success, but I do think that it could have formed a solid niche if they took it seriously. Not only that Nintendo would pretty much be the only one able to advertise their games because all of them are legal.



Burek said:

Niko said that legal sales of the two new gaming consoles have been outright disappointing thus far, and the firm anticipates that only 550,000 units total will be sold by the end of this year. Sales could improve still if prices are lowered and more AAA titles get approved and released on the Chinese market.

The real opportunity, according to Niko, is in set-top boxes and Smart TVs, which are predicted to overtake console sales by 2019.

More here:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-07-01-xbox-one-ps4-sales-disappointing-in-china-report

 

With all the negative predictions about China, banned games and grey market consoles, 550K to me seems actually a good number.

But it seems that both Microsoft and Sony had bigger plans.

I wonder if Sony can reboot PS TV microconsole there.


Numbers actually seem ok. What was the companies predictions? I think Sony was a bit more realistic with their numbers.



Aeolus451 said:
Miguel_Zorro said:
Total GDP for country isn't relevant in this case. We're talking about the ability of individuals to afford a video game console. Per Capita GDP is what matters.


Even in that scenario, china is not poor. Their middle class and rich can afford gaming as hobby. Maybe their poor can too. Just about everyone spends a lot of money on entertaining themselves. 

 

Per capita GDP have no relation to this discussion. India's power capita is like $5500, but the median income is like $683. PPP has no relation to this discussion either, as consoles do not drop in price to match the cost of living.