Kyuu said: I couldn't agree more.
Ultimately, I decided to stay away from doctrines because all they do is allow the opposing groups to "box" you inside a false image their delusional minds created. That, and the fact that all doctrines do indeed have serious flaws in them (opinion).. Sunnism is NOT excluded. By "Sunnism" I'm referring to the sources they rely on. Like Shia's, these sources are far from perfect. It's okay to hate on Shia and judge them on the actions and personal conclusions of a few idiots. But it's not okay to judge my group (in his case, Sunnism) on the actions of corrupt Caliphs, radial Salifists and Wahabists, false Jihadists, Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, Saddam Hussein, ISIS and a huge list of countless lunatics. We can't co-exist with Shia because some of those "dirty rafidites" criticize some of the 120 thousand "holy" companions who passed away over 1400 ago! "I've no issues with the HOLY companions of Muhammad starting a war between themselves, causing the death of tens of thousands and neither should you!!!!.. how dare anyone criticize or even question their actions??? how dare they disagree with me?" Allow me to sum up the logic of an extreme Muslim: Sahabi = mini God Hadith = The word of god (Even when the great majority of those Hadith are admittedly "Ahad Hadith" that are scientifically WEAK because an Ahad Hadith is a narration that is sourced from a single invidiual. For instance, hundreds of Muslims heard [enter Sahabi name here] narrating a story that ONLY HE/SHE has directly heard from Muhammad. But.. [enter Sahabi name] is by definition a super amazing "Sahabi", so no matter how immoral this hadith might sound, I'm just going to believe it! And F**K YOU if you don't!) Criticism = hate Doubt = SHAYTAN!!! Kindness, respect, consideration = Evil Taqiyyah!! Hiding your faith to survive brutal tyrants = Evil Taqiyyah!! The beliefs/actions of a few = the whole (This rule doesn't apply to his/her group.. because.. hypocrisy!) Disagreement = Utter Herecy Questionable pracitices = Infidelity |
KYU WORDS "But it's not okay to judge my group" So you are Shia after all, last time you asking me to explain what is the difference between those because you are not one of Shia and Sunni you said ,............oh it must be that at that time your Taqiyah is " on " right? LOl, and then you refuse to have a direct discussion with me because i know this is the truth and try to talk behind my back , so shia is a coward after all ,
And Yes Muslim need to be radical, because either you a secular, a false follower or a radical, you can choose all of three choices, and radical is not terorisme mind you, radical is a pure theaching that practicing all the teaching from Muhammad SAW " without adding another false teaching ", i am moderat, i am playing video games, watching Anime, and read manga, some times i late for my prayer, but for Islam i am radical, radical in my persepective, radical of my way of thinking because Muhammad SAW theach us to be a good Muslim, a radical Muslim, and did Muhammmad teach me to kill every shia , my anser is No, and did Muhammad teach me to kill all unbelivaber , the answer is No. Muhammad teach me to worshiping Allah without any companion beside Him, and then Shia teach that their 12 imam is eternal like Allah SWT and equal with Allah SWT, oh i hope Allah forgive them.
KYU WORDS : " I've no issues with the HOLY companions of Muhammad starting a war between themselves, causing the death of tens of thousands and neither should you!!!!.. how dare anyone criticize or even question their actions??? how dare they disagree with me? "
Really??? from the way you put your words you seem to be hate it all the companion of the Holy prophet, your words is more of sarcasm. The answer is no, the companion prophet is not causing the war, it was a jews insider inside the ummah that pretend to be a Muslim that divide the " politic" among the companion but all of them is close friend even after they divide they still love each other. So i am following them or Muslim need to follow them if their action is based on hadith , because hadith is part of Muhammad words and action and Allah ask us to follow Muhammad and his companion, do you still want to argue then argue with God Him self lol .
KYU WORDS: " Hadith = The word of god (Even when the great majority of those Hadith are admittedly "Ahad Hadith" that are scientifically WEAK because an Ahad Hadith is a narration that is sourced from a single invidiual. For instance, hundreds of Muslims heard [enter Sahabi name here] narrating a story that ONLY HE/SHE has directly heard from Muhammad. But.. [enter Sahabi name] is by definition a super amazing "Sahabi", so no matter how immoral this hadith might sound, I'm just going to believe it! And F**K YOU if you don't!) "
My answer : Hadith is not the word of God, it was an action and words of Muhammad but Allah ask us to follow Muhammad because Allah mention that in Quran, and your shahadath mention that Muhammad is the messanger of Allah is it???, or you have a different shadath ??? To accept a hadith, The hadith it self need to have a witness when Muhammad spoke of it and it need to be rely to a lot of people who hear the same words, and also because of that reason that we need to trust all Muhammad companion that close to him, including Ali, Umar, Utman and Abu bakar , and all Muhammad wife , because Allah even mention them in Quran, and it's imposible to manipulate Quran, or if you are not believe then my prove is right, that you and other shia are not accepting Aisya and Umar as close companion to Rasulullah, because u and your group doesn't accepting hadith because most of hadith came from their witness. So Shia only accepting hadith narated by their desire and hate to Aisya and Umar, or every other hate to Holyprophet companion beside Ali and Fatimah, is it??? then if it's true then the prove is even moreaccurate that " SHIA IS NOT ISLAM ". Because you need to accept Hadith and Quran and all the companion without downplaying one of them, "It's all mention in Quran " so you cannot argue with this.
KYU WORDS : "
Sahabi = mini God, what??? i dont have a clue what is sahabi mean, maybe you can help me
Criticism = hate, Of course not, i am accepting any criticism and every muslim accepted but not Alqur'an and hadith and not with all Muhammad 4 companion and all his wife naration of the hadith ," you can " ofcourse but then you are not Islam. So if Shia questioning all of them then you doubting all the teaching
Doubt = SHAYTAN!!! , No, it's not all doubt are Shaytan, but if you doubthing Alquran and Hadith then that doubt came from you desire and shaytan
Kindness, respect, consideration = Evil Taqiyyah!! Well No, Taqiyah = Back stabing covered by Kindness, respect, consideration, well the fact is already proven in History that you cannot argue when there is shia then there is a war and betraying
Hiding your faith to survive brutal tyrants = Evil Taqiyyah!! Not if you hiding from a brutal tyrant who kafr, often current taqiyah use even among Muslim, wich is weird, because we are brother and sister right? or you just accepting that Shia is not Islam , you can choose
The beliefs/actions of a few = the whole (This rule doesn't apply to his/her group.. because.. hypocrisy!), This is uterly nonsense , Islam not accepting shia because is not of small group or minority, shia is large group no???, we are not accepting shia because Allah and Muhammad teaching againts it. ( Muth'ah, 12 imam, praying with stone, etc)
Disagreement = Utter Herecy , NO, disagreement with Allah and Muhammad and his companion is super utter herecy, but if you do then is up to you but don't use Islam as your religion.
Questionable pracitices = Infidelity, NO Questionable practices without foundation of hadith and Quran is infidelity because Islamict practice need to be based on Quran and hadith , If not then it's not Islamic teaching, or maybe it's a shia teaching