This nation is seriously fucked.

The Supreme Court legalizes gay marriage unconstitutionally.
Congress passes the Trans Pacific Partnership without knowing what it contains and won't for years to come.

Meanwhile, the common man is trying to ban a flag.

I think it's likely to be a temporary thing until the shit dies down. But I turned off Dukes back in the 80's when I realised what a lame arsed cheesey show it really is. So to me it's no loss for it to disappear off the screen forever, not that it will be.

I do hope the removal of confederate flags from state and local government properties is a permanent thing though. I can't understand why a symbol of secession, slavery and racism could ever be regarded as a legitimate thing for government institutions to display as a matter of pride. If private individuals or organisations want to wrap themselves in that odious symbology then that is fine, but government institutions should never be party to that sort of thing.

I loved the first movie

Ive seen it ten times

Maybe more

Wow, this thing just keeps escalating.

Let me see if this censorship spread to VGChartz already.

Testing, testing:

If this thread gets abruptly closed then we know what happened.

Yep, the actual shape of the cross has been pretty common in various parts of history. There is a building in New York that has the entrance covered with them carved in stone.

When I said Swastika, I was meaning the one people know now, with the red background, then a white circle with a black Swastika on top. However the overall shape again, does show how something entirely innocent can get dragged into meaning something specific.

Even when discussing "Evil Nazis" though, people really do forget that many of them were just ordinary people living their daily lives under the curtain of their reality. For a greater explanation of what I mean like that, see how different the Ukraine crisis is reported to the Russian population vs how it's explains to the EU population.

Russians believe Crimea was liberated. Europeans believe Russia invaded in a hostile manner.

Just like with that, I'm not sure the American civil war is anywhere near as clear cut as the media is wanting me to believe. I'm sure many of pro confederation fighters were not in the slightest bit interested in slavery and had genuine grievance with how "the North" was running them.

As for calling them traitors, does that make the pro independence Scots traitors? Surely all rebellion against a status quo is treason at some point?

Ok I need to straighten this out every body on both sides needs to chill out.

Thing 1. No one in the public of any importance is calling for a complete ban of the flag. The primary movement is simply to remove the flag from state buildings. Which makes sense because A) the flag was only put up in the 50's as a reaction to the civil rights movement B) the state endorsing a terribly thought out war against their own country is in a word: retarded.

Thing 2. The reason corporations like tvland do things like this, or what happened with duck dynasty or stores saying happy holidays instead of merry Christmas isn't because of some left wing pussies carrying out some PC police conspiracy it's because at the end of the day media people and major store chains are selling something and people who want to sell to largest population possible will always choose political correctness because ultimately they want the most money from the most people. period.

I don't really care much about the flag my self but then again I am white and no attachment to it either way.

In fairness to the dukes of hazzard it does seem silly to remove a show about redneck moonshine runners because they use a flag heavily associated with, well, red neck moonshine runners. But, that's tv executives for you they just care about the bottom line and the PR.

Also for the people in the thread asking how the flag is connected to the shootings it's because the shoot actively identified with it.

ehm both  us flags are a symbol of secession, slavery and racism.  the british mainland ruled out slavery long before the colonies seceded.

a slave came free when he walked on british soil..

Not true at all. 

https://frenemyclothing.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/swastika4.png

In fact, the Finnish Air Force started using that symbol before the Nazi Party even existed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Air_Force

While the flag of the Nazi Party flag (later the flag of Nazi Germany) represented nothing outside of the Nazi regime, the swastika itself did and still does. Unfortunately, because of the Nazis, very few people these days can use that symbol in any way without uneducated people raising an eyebrow. In fact, this Confederate Flag controversy is nothing new to the US. Because the Nazis like to ruin other things, during the second world war, it was decided that Americans should no longer give the Pledge of Allegiance like they used to.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute