I know it's going to have some negative effects on economies of European nations... but I still kinda want Greece to finally fall.

1) They voted in a radical left govenment they know will make negotiations with the EU harder.
2) TThey have the highest social spending in the EU and they still have the audacity to tell us that cutting back on this is unacceptable.
3) Their government keeps demanding more money despite not doing ANYTHING their benefactors wanted, so even if they get the money, thir economy will crash regardless, justa few months/years down the line.

They don't deserve their second chance. They got themselves into this and we need to show everyone in the EU that the "We threw all our money away, now please give us some of yours" approach will not work.

Let them fall.

burning great amounts of oil for energie isnt the cause, its a symptom.

How that relates to my question? What's your reserves you could actually excavate?

there are no reserves that would turn a profit  at the low prices for oil and coal we have today.  but that would change realy fast if the price would rise sharply or if the markets doesnt want to sell to us anymore. 

Profitable in terms of energy return. How much that cost in cut paper is completely irrelevant.

its very hard to have a negative energie return on coal or oil.  and making gasoline out of coal isnt a problem too.  thats 100 years old tech thats proven to work(and is still used in some parts of the world).

You don't need to have it negative, nobody will even bother with EROEI below 3-4 and that's a norm today, how much higher it's going to be when assosiated energy costs will go up, nobody knows. It's death spiral upside down. In terms of tech you're behind the times by a mile, would you have been as smart as you've claimed you'd have acknowledge simple facts: Europe has peaked on all fossil fules, Europe is hopelessly energy deficit, there's only two ways of covering the deficit: either by cutting costs (and given the time that is left the cutting would look more like collapse), or ramping up prodcutions of energies that could replace decline of fossil fuels, like nuclear as the best of options in terms of availability, output and price.

The news:

"The Greek goverment sent the creditors a new proposal for continuing financial help. In this proposal, Athens offer huge concessions, by far the biggest yet, according to Greek media. The country will experience a large tax hit and significant cuts in state expenses."

Well, that's an interesting development... maybe Tsipras was bluffing the whole time? Maybe he isn't comletely incompetent, maybe he just chose the wrong horse and now the entire country will pay for it.

To be fair, isn't this "as a percentage of GDP"? Which has fallen by over a quarter since the banking crisis.

They didn't "get themselves" into this.. Many in the EU encouraged and pushed for it too. So there is a joint responsibility IMO with that. However they were in the EU regardless of the Euro and I have a problem with the idea of telling anyone "tough tits, you fucked up deal with it" when we're supposedly all in the same club.