Lafiel said:
routsounmanman said:
Lafiel said:
Tsipras is saying so every fucking day - he wants a debt cut and that's exactly the reason why there was no result in all those negotiations over the last 7-8 months
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Nope, he asks for a debt reform (excuse me if the wording is incorrect), postpone the payments, lower the interest rates.
And even if he asked for a debt reduction, he is right; it is nearly impossible to ever pay back full because we lost 26% of our GDP, because of a failed program (and our politicians idiocy, I admit)! Can you even comprehend the destruction to our economy? Do you even care? Even the IMF backs it up.
If Europe hadn't cut Germany's debt back in 1953, there'd be no "economic miracle", you'd still be in shambles. Wake up and face the truth.
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I am very grateful the international community granted Germany another chance after being responsible for 2 devastating and unforgivable world wars and I'm a big big benificiary of that decision, but I have no doubt our representatives of the time also showed that they know what went so very wrong and how to rebuild the country and make it a valuable partner of the international community.
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Apparently, Greece is is not worth a second chance. Start a terrible war (I don't hold Germany solely responsible for WW1), devastate the entire continent, ok here you go, all forgiven. Forge fake fiscal data? ANNIHILATION.
Also, it is true that we overborrowed money during the period 2000-2009 but it's a misconception that Greece solely lived through that. Even before adopting the common currency, we were quite a healthy and strong nation (nothing compared to countries like Bulgaria, Latvia, etc that Germans insist we must come down to to become competitive).
And losing 26% of GDP is a CATASTROPHE no matter how you try to sugar coat it. And asking for painful and deep reforms (mostly taxes and cuts) during this period only makes things worse. Believe me, if this deal goes through, we're going to lose another 25% in 5 years. No country can sustain that; a default back in 2009 would have brought us in a much better position long-term, but the EU didn't let us default, to save the private baks, and shelter the other big indebted nations (Spain, Italy).
PS1: Ignore Davman, just don't even try to answer.
PS2: I respect the modern Germany, and have nothing against the German people, if anything, I find they're lovely (tourists visiting here, etc) and very educated and kind. But the whole German government has treated us like garbage that absolutely need to be punished. Angela Merkel is the worst leader the EU could have right now; if we go down, she will be remembered for this failure.