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This is not a review and I'm going to tell you straignt out the gate this game is fiucking awesome! I have have been playing Romancing SaGa for a few weeks and have been hooked by its design and its challenge but how advanced it is to other SNES/GEN RPG's. Truly ahead of its time. When just compared to the SNES FINAL FANTASY's, game design wise, it a more than a few steps above them. At heart Romancing SaGA is a spiritual successor to FF2, its FINAL FANTASY, so you have about 70% of what to expect, but its the last 30% that makes this game shine. and I want to point out what they are.

PROGRESSION:

- You will begin the game by choosing a main character out of 8. 5 of them form the Shinon mercenary group and the last 3 are from the Loanne Royal family who employed the shinon group. You will then get to customize your character alittle by choosing a profession and a best weapon. This is important because it decides you base stats, which are static and never change (more on this later) and the learning type of your character (later) 

- After a 2 part introduction, the real game begins and the most immediate difference to Final Fantasy and the main reason this series never made it overseas is its "Free Scenario" structure. There are about 30 quest and you are free to complete them mostly in any order you choose. The reason I say mostly is because the only sense of a structure is the fact that some quest will not be available untill the game deems you powerful enough to tackle them. It uses your main characters stats to to decided this. It's not known how exactly it does this, so all walkthroughs will use HP as a gauge if your ready or not. The other reason is some quest will be locked  untill another quest involved with that one is completed.

- Alternatively,you dont have to complete all of the quest if you dont want to. It's possible just to focus on quest related to getting to the final place. So the game can be as long as you want it to be .. kind of.

- Your world map begins empty, but because of the FS system it is entirely possible to open up every town in the game in like 10 minutes, wheter it be by catching a ship to that location or having the various NPCs in the world tell you the location of them. So that means all the merchant bought weapon/armor/magic are available. You will not have to money or the JP(MP) to buy/use them but you can start preparing. 

 

Party building /powering up

- After the intro stuff the Shinon group get famous and go their own ways. At this point its time to start making a party. Some might want to go recollect the Shinion group/Royal family, which you can, or you can choose from the 23 other characters scattered arond the world . In total there are 31 playable characters.

 

Julian

Thomas

Mikhail

Harid

Sara

Ellen

Monica

Katrina

 

Supporting Characters

 

Bai Meiling

Boston

Black

 Fat Robin

Fullbright Herman

Leonid

Muse

Nora

Paul

Poet  Robin

Sharl

Shonen

Tatyana

Tiberius

Undine Wood

Yan Fan

Yousei

Yuki

 Zhi Lin

Zo

 

 

- Your party can hold 6 characters, one on reserve. If you want to switch characters you can at the pub by kicking em out.  Dont worry though, if you want them back just go back to where you recruited them, or in some cases a few characters appear in multple places, and get them back. A few charcaters cannot be kicked out untill certain events happen. Ultimately you arent forced to keep or get anybody.

- Getting stronger is similiar to FINAL FANTASY ll, the more you do something the better you get at it. Few diffrences though.

- Each character comes with base stats: Str,Dex,SD,Def,Int,will,charm, and LP. THESE NEVER INCREASE. They only get improved by equipping weapons/armor/accessories or temp through magic/skills.

- Each character also comes with different levels in weapon catogries: Blade( sword/great sword), Bow, Martial arts, Pierce( lance/rapier), blunt(mace/staff) and magic (sun/moon, earth fire wind water) if they have it.RS3 is about freedom so you can do what you want with your party but things to consider: characters learn skills, weapon levels at different rates. Just because Pual came with bow as his highest leveled weapon doesnt mean he is best with that weapon and wont kick ass with a great sword. Also if a character has low dex, which is used in bow formula, do you want him/her using a bow? If you have 2 characters and both have a level 30 in bows but one has 16 in dex and the other 21..though you can make a character do anything there is still better/worse pros/cons to each

- Magic works no different, but its kind of limited. You can only equip one character with Sun OR Moon and then a basic element. There are a few spells in each category but they get better effects the higher your level in that element.

 

BATTLE

- Game is challenging for 3 reasons. Money is hard to come by, as its not rewarded from battle but quest,chest or selling unneeded stuff, so keeping 6 party members up to date on equipment is tough. Enemies level with the player and I dont mean just gaining stats. I mean outright replaced with better, more powerful enemies that hit hard, can be alot of them, have lots of HP and group targeting spells. Cant tell you how many times I got wiped out because of an enemy upgrade and not knowing what to expect from them. The big bosses of the game are brutal.

There is no revive spells in the game just cast a heal and that will wake a KOed member up but there is a another stat, LP or Life points. Each character has a certain amount, usually 10 but can be higher or lower and each time he/she is KOed one life point is. If  a character is hit with a group spell or an enemy is being a dick (some monsters are programmed to target Koed members more frequently) and attacks a downed meember while KOed another point is lost. If all are lost the character is dead...permenently.

- Formation is important. Its more than just front/back row. Your party takes different formations on the battle and depending on thier placement in that formation decides: State buffs/debuffs, who the enemy is likely to target. and in commander mode, where  you put your main in the reserve, and you control your unit as one, decides the combo techs/magic. These look awesome


- You can carry up to 4 different weapons in battle but you can only have 8 skills (not per weapon, TOTAL) and 8 magics, not including skills that come with certain weapons, at a time. Use of each skill uses WP/JP. Lose all your WP/JP and you dont have a restore for it? Better hope you have some free of charge skills because your not attacking.


- SPARKING!!!: Learning new skills mid battle. Using the basic attack command or certain skills will radomly have you learn new skills. Its so excting and addicting espescially when it kills a powerful enemy thats kicking your ass. When you learn a new skill it will appear as red in your tech list. If you remove it the character forgets it and you will have to learn it again, but if you master is first then you can remove it and share it with other members.



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Oh c'mon, its not long. Just the images make it seem so. JRPG enthusiast specifically should check it out.



Looks like my type of game and Yuki and Zo look cute XD.
If I find it I will give it a try.



ARamdomGamer said:
Looks like my type of game and Yuki and Zo look cute XD.
If I find it I will give it a try.


Its not hard to find, not even alittle. I had no experience in Roms/Emulators, but had everything working in like 10mins.



Xxain said:

Its not hard to find, not even alittle. I had no experience in Roms/Emulators, but had everything working in like 10mins.

Yeah I know it's easy with an emulator but I would like the actual game.
EDIT: Doing some research I see that the game is Japan only, okay now I have to use an emulator XD



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You gotta understand that this game was only released in Japan so 95% of the people on here more then likely have never played it, hence the lack of replies to your thread. Also you would rate Romancing SaGa 3 over such titles as Chrono Trigger, FFVI, FFIV, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore and Super Mario RPG all from Squaresoft on the Snes? Bold statement!



painmaster212 said:
You gotta understand that this game was only released in Japan so 95% of the people on here more then likely have never played it, hence the lack of replies to your thread. Also you would rate Romancing SaGa 3 over such titles as Chrono Trigger, FFVI, FFIV, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore and Super Mario RPG all from Squaresoft on the Snes? Bold statement!


I understand that, which inspired me to make the thread. Outside of SaGa Frontier 2, I know had no experience with this series and had I known it was this awesome I would have had the whole series by now. Attempting to introduce it. 

Do I think its good enough that you could argue its better? Yes. Its definitely better than Mario RPG. 



It sounds like a game ahead of its time, which being able to choose 1 of 8 characters, and interchangeable party members, but it does sound a bit lacking story wise. I like the sound of having a free world, but the lack of a goal does sound a bit on the downside. But if I could, I would give it a shot. I could probably pick it up cheap. I`ve seen so many copies of this game in stores...



 

              

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To bad Square hates the virtual console. I'd love to try it.



The series never came because Square didnt think we could handle the openess of it. To their credit its alittle daunting at first but nothing we couldnt handle. I think the original PHANTASY STAR is worst.

Just emulate it. If you feel guilty just by a JAP copy off Amazon. Thats what I did.