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Stellar_Fungk said:
Samus Aran said:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7394999

Here's the post by the way.

As for why I'm not contacting a moderator on this, I've been ignored too many times, so I'm not wasting my time on it anymore. If I get banned for making this post I at least got banned while defending gay rights.

Read it. Reported him.


You  report people that may not think the same way you do?   There are no specifics in that post and even if a post did compare the 2- so what?  People and their beleifs (beleifs from all parts of the spectrum)  are villified  and worse every day



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ARamdomGamer said:
Pavolink said:
They announced at January 2013 games not even released by now. How is that not a long time?

I think what Reggie meant with that is that they want to start doing the thing of announcing stuff that will release within 1 year or so NOW, probably because of Yoshi, Zelda and Xenoblade that we have waited for so long and they don't want to do that anymore. That doesn't excuse them of doing it in the past but again I think they want to change that.


Reggie said "we fundamentally beleive"    so that is not implying something new---It is Reggie just being full of BS -- Reggie does not beleive what he is saying-  he does not expeet reasonable or informed people to beleive his trash talk-  but he gives the fan boys a little red meat to latch onto or even beieve if they are predisposed to delusion



I don't agree with the slanting of the points made in the OP. The LoZ tech demo, for instance, is as good as an announcement of LoZ for Wii U, and that's what everyoine at the time was seeing it as "OMG LoZ on Wii U, instant win". If Nintendo hadn't wanted to effectively announce LoZ for Wii U their tech demo should have been of generic characters tpo show off the awesome power of WIi U. But also it's hardly a legit tech demo because LoZ U isn't going to look remotely like the tech demo, so it was giving false impressions. Therefore the tech demo was false advertising as well as misleading people into thinking a LoZ game for Wii U was less than 2 years away.

It's also not just the we don't announce games 4 years in advance thing that made Reggie look like a pouty bad sport. It was his series of statements after e3 that gave a lot of people a poor(er) impression of him being the voice of NoA.

Then on the one hand the OP says he's not taking a dig at the competition, and in later posts padib says he's pointing at the likes of TLG, FFVII and FFXV. That's having a dig at the same time as offering an excuse for the lack of exciting announcements. He should just get his house in order. The lack of exciting announcements is an indictment on Nintendo's development programme. They either wrongly thought that the games they were announcing would get everyone excited (which is a problem in itself) or they are very behind on games that they are trying to get far enough along to be able to announce. I expect they will bring some good news to TGS.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Yeah, I`d pretty much agree with everything said here. Good job padib.



 

              

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Some issues with this theory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmxvig1dXE - Shown 2014, expected 2016 or later (2 years from reveal to release)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVDgpaTExnE - Shown 2014, expected ??? (1 - 2 years from reveal to release)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO1SvuuXBBw - Shown 2014, expected ??? (1 - 2 years from reveal to release)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo - Shown Jan 2013, expected 2016 (3 years from reveal to release)



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Tachikoma said:
Some issues with this theory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmxvig1dXE - Shown 2014, expected 2016 or later (2 years from reveal to release)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVDgpaTExnE - Shown 2014, expected ??? (1 - 2 years from reveal to release)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO1SvuuXBBw - Shown 2014, expected ??? (1 - 2 years from reveal to release)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo - Shown Jan 2013, expected 2016 (3 years from reveal to release)

I agree with Project Robot and Guard, but to be fair, Zelda was planned for 2015 before being delayed. And SMT x FE didn`t show anything on the game, but that it was in the works. The first official in game footage was shown earlier this year, and Japan will be able to play it this Winter, at least...



 

              

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Cloudman said:

And SMT x FE didn`t show anything on the game, but that it was in the works. The first official in game footage was shown earlier this year, and Japan will be able to play it this Winter, at least...

Still a reveal of the game long before its ready however you butter the bread.



Tachikoma said:
Cloudman said:

And SMT x FE didn`t show anything on the game, but that it was in the works. The first official in game footage was shown earlier this year, and Japan will be able to play it this Winter, at least...

Still a reveal of the game long before its ready however you butter the bread.

Yeah, that is true, though reggie said 2 different things, which was showing footage of a game with the plan of the game being released within or about a year after it`s shown, and announcing games 5 or 6 years after announcment, so in Reggie`s weird words, he would be techincally correct.



 

              

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Fils-Aime: “Look, we know that the fans want a straight Samus Aran game. We also know that the best way to launch a game like that is to surprise and delight them, to give them a launch date, in an environment like this let them play it vs. what other companies do which is to announce a project that you may not see for five, six years. It’s just not the way we do things. We know the community wants to see a straight-up Metroid game. We know it.”

His quote is a judgment statement on what other companies do, since they are saying that their way is best.

It's also such an exageration, other companies implies far more than the select few that have titles that were anounced a long tim ago, and 5, 6 years has pretty much been just a few square-enix titles that they tease people with way too soon with not even plans of the games being out that soon. TLG was supposed to be out 2 years later. Had he just said 3,4 years he would have been right about a few more devs but even then most games are faster from anouncement to release than that.  had he said 2,3 years more acurate still, but even then while it would need to be checked I still think most games come out faster. Though several big titles from this years e3 will probably fall in here.

 



padib said:
binary solo said:

I don't agree with the slanting of the points made in the OP. The LoZ tech demo, for instance, is as good as an announcement of LoZ for Wii U, and that's what everyoine at the time was seeing it as "OMG LoZ on Wii U, instant win". If Nintendo hadn't wanted to effectively announce LoZ for Wii U their tech demo should have been of generic characters tpo show off the awesome power of WIi U. But also it's hardly a legit tech demo because LoZ U isn't going to look remotely like the tech demo, so it was giving false impressions. Therefore the tech demo was false advertising as well as misleading people into thinking a LoZ game for Wii U was less than 2 years away.

It's also not just the we don't announce games 4 years in advance thing that made Reggie look like a pouty bad sport. It was his series of statements after e3 that gave a lot of people a poor(er) impression of him being the voice of NoA.

Then on the one hand the OP says he's not taking a dig at the competition, and in later posts padib says he's pointing at the likes of TLG, FFVII and FFXV. That's having a dig at the same time as offering an excuse for the lack of exciting announcements. He should just get his house in order. The lack of exciting announcements is an indictment on Nintendo's development programme. They either wrongly thought that the games they were announcing would get everyone excited (which is a problem in itself) or they are very behind on games that they are trying to get far enough along to be able to announce. I expect they will bring some good news to TGS.

I still don't see how Reggie mentioning that Nintendo does things differently, and me pointing out the examples to support his claim, make his claim a dig in any way. He never said it was a bad thing. He was simply trying to explain why Prime wasn't at the show (as per the quote) and it's a fair way to explain it.

As for Zelda, it was a demo that they had made in house, an asset that they used to demo the U. It would be a waste to throw it away just to avoid "confusing the audience". Meanwhile, they made it clear at e3 2012 that it was not the Zelda to be expected.

As for the other statements, I haven't heard them. But still I think this quote in particular should be judged in isolation before being judged in the full set of post e3 quotes. I would like links though.

Prime was not at e3 because they have not begun development on it nor hsave approved development of it-  according to the Prime director- and when/if it is released it will be on the NX  = again according to the Prime director

they did not show games for the wii u too far in the future because there are not any (at least any of interest) because they will be releasing on the NX not the wii u-