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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Rumor: Nintendo started talking with third-parties about NX at E3, positive reception; NX more than a year away

Darwinianevolution on 27 June 2015
Cloudman said:
If that is true, sounds concerning. They barely just started talking to them, when the NX is going to be revealed next year..? Shouldn't that have been done a long time ago? If the NX released 2016 or 2017, doesn't sound like a lot of time to prepare games for their launch line up.

There are a lot of possibilities of why is that: maybe the system is incredibly easy to port things to, maybe the NX will release in 2018, maybe Nintendo will actively help in the developing process on 3rd parties, maybe Nintendo is just focusing on handheld-like games first before the home console-esque titles...



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pokoko on 27 June 2015
Darwinianevolution said:

I'll take that "positive reception" with a grain of salt. Remember, everyone was on board with the WiiU at first, and then quickly ran away when the boat showed any weakness. Nintendo needs to bring to the table a strong 1st party lineup the first year to attract hardware sales, that will attract 3rd parties.

Also, I hope they talked with Bethesda already. They made a big deal about the WiiU because they didn't talk with them before release. I hope they at least try to release something on the NX this time.

The same with Gearbox.  People with both companies said they had zero communication with Nintendo before the Wii U's launch.  

It seemed as though Nintendo pretty much ignored western publishers and developers not named Ubisoft, Activision, or EA.  It's really no wonder they were ignored in turn.  It will be interesting to see if Nintendo's concept of "third-parties" is still limited to Japan and the Big Three in the west.



bunchanumbers on 27 June 2015
Cloudman said:
If that is true, sounds concerning. They barely just started talking to them, when the NX is going to be revealed next year..? Shouldn't that have been done a long time ago? If the NX released 2016 or 2017, doesn't sound like a lot of time to prepare games for their launch line up.


Not necessarily. If NX is using the x86 architecture, then their game porting shouldn't be nearly as complicated as before. If the first year NX ends up with the same support as the twins without issue then it should be enough until 3rd party devs start learning the nuances of the hardware. What needs to happen though is Nintendo making sure it gets the ports that the twins get.



Angelv577 on 27 June 2015
bunchanumbers said:
Cloudman said:
If that is true, sounds concerning. They barely just started talking to them, when the NX is going to be revealed next year..? Shouldn't that have been done a long time ago? If the NX released 2016 or 2017, doesn't sound like a lot of time to prepare games for their launch line up.


Not necessarily. If NX is using the x86 architecture, then their game porting shouldn't be nearly as complicated as before. If the first year NX ends up with the same support as the twins without issue then it should be enough until 3rd party devs start learning the nuances of the hardware. What needs to happen though is Nintendo making sure it gets the ports that the twins get.


that's the thing, easy to port doesnt neccesarily translate into optimized games and if that's the case, the games wont sell and the cycle will repeat.  porting games to it at launch wont guarantee support on a constant basis.



bunchanumbers on 27 June 2015
Angelv577 said:
bunchanumbers said:


Not necessarily. If NX is using the x86 architecture, then their game porting shouldn't be nearly as complicated as before. If the first year NX ends up with the same support as the twins without issue then it should be enough until 3rd party devs start learning the nuances of the hardware. What needs to happen though is Nintendo making sure it gets the ports that the twins get.


that's the thing, easy to port doesnt neccesarily translate into optimized games and if that's the case, the games wont sell and the cycle will repeat.  porting games to it at launch wont guarantee support on a constant basis.

Some optimization shouldn't be a issue with some patches.  It shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as it was with Wii U. At least assuming Nintendo doesn't do anything super crazy with the hardware.



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Roma on 27 June 2015

I hope Nintendo doesn't get fooled by this like it did with WiiU. As I've said before Nintendo needs to go in as if they are alone from the start!



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Frogger on 27 June 2015

Not concrete enough.



Cobretti2 on 27 June 2015

Don't read into it too much EA was holding hands on stage with Nintendo about the Wii U then bam gone.



 

 

IamAwsome on 27 June 2015
pokoko said:
Darwinianevolution said:

I'll take that "positive reception" with a grain of salt. Remember, everyone was on board with the WiiU at first, and then quickly ran away when the boat showed any weakness. Nintendo needs to bring to the table a strong 1st party lineup the first year to attract hardware sales, that will attract 3rd parties.

Also, I hope they talked with Bethesda already. They made a big deal about the WiiU because they didn't talk with them before release. I hope they at least try to release something on the NX this time.

The same with Gearbox.  People with both companies said they had zero communication with Nintendo before the Wii U's launch.  

It seemed as though Nintendo pretty much ignored western publishers and developers not named Ubisoft, Activision, or EA.  It's really no wonder they were ignored in turn.  It will be interesting to see if Nintendo's concept of "third-parties" is still limited to Japan and the Big Three in the west.

I don't believe that about Gearbox. They were developing the Wii U version of that Aliens game. 

Nintendo did court a few others besides the big three. They had WB, THQ, Codemasters, and Crytek all confirmed to make games for the Wii U while Epic Games, Take-Two, Irrational Games, and Insomniac all showed interest in 2011-Early 2012. Square Enix was the only Japanese publisher that didn't demonstrate interest. 

They didn't really ignore western developers, but they could be more proactive. Bethesda never really had a relationship with Nintendo in the past so it doesn't surprise me that Nintendo didn't court them with the Wii U. That needs to change. They know which third parties to get (read: all of them), they just need to work a little harder to make sure they are satisfied so they don't bail before the system launch (Lookng at you EA).