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Soleron said:
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Sex amongst first relatives is sick, offspring generated from 1st cousins have double the chance of serious genetic birth abnormalities.55% of Pakistani immigrants in the UK marry their 1st cousins and the taxpayer has to pay for all these deformed kids, it's a terrible situation both for the kids and the taxpayers.We gotta move into the 21st century and ban this sorta stuff.

Why do we have to ban something just because it is bad?

I don't think something like that needs an explanation. Bad + Negative effect on multiple people = Don't do it.



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archer9234 said:
Esiar said:

 

 1. Polygamy   

 2. Marijuana  ( Old source but many have brought this up on social media and Youtube )

 3. Prostitution

 4. Incest

 5. Pedophilia

1. For me 1 is like consensual adultery. Which is nuts imo.

2. This is better than #1. For me it depends on why they're using it.

3. You get money for doing fornication/adultery, which is wrong.

4/5 - No one needs to explain this. The only argument I could see for #4 is between cousins. I don't agree with it, but it is legalized in some places.

1 If it's consensual than it can't be adultery. I had sex with your husbands friend. They knew, and want it. No secrets. How can it than be wrong?

3 Same thing. It's a choice.

5 Would never happen. Since it involves a person who can't form proper decisions, and parents. We know its morally wrong.

4 Either way. You want to risk destroying your genetic line, go right ahead.

2 leagalize it. The country will get tax money.

1. It's just feels wrong. Like if someone wants you to kill them, you could argue it isn't murder, but assisted suicide. Although it's still wrong to kill them. So, in other words, I believe that sleeping with multiple people is very wrong, but if everyone knows and consents, it isn't cheating, but you're still sleeping with multiple people.

3. It's the same thing for me. It's not right to get money out of doing immoral things.



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I hope incest and ephebophilia comes next. The bans on those are just ridiculous.



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I'm glad to see that we're working towards acceptance of others. As long as no one else is being harmed by someone's actions, we should live and let live. I don't think that following these principals will lead to moral degradation. Wrong action comes from violating another's rights, not from upsetting prudes. The following are good examples:

-Rape is wrong because it is non-consensual, and harmful both mentally and physically.

-Pedophilia is wrong because children aren't of a maturity level to consent to sex, and it is therefor rape (see above).



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vivster said:
I hope incest and ephebophilia comes next. The bans on those are just ridiculous.

 Yeah I don't particularly advocate these two things, but I think they need to be legalized, as right now they lead to ridiculous sentences: to act on ephebophilia especially. I think anyone who has been sexually aware for a few years is capable of giving consent, and for most people that is well before the 15-19 that ephebophilia entails. Some might argue that an older person can impression somebody that young, but the same is true for an older person and a 20 year old, or even two individuals of the same age. The whole point of these laws is to protect pre-pubescent children, and that is because there is no way they can understand what sex really means and whther or not they can give consent. A minor who is for the most part post-pubescent can accurately give consent because they understand what sex entails and what it means to them. Obviously the age range needs to be high enough to consider variation of when puberty starts, but other than that I see no problem with the age of consent being 15 years old.



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It's not hurting anyone is it? I mean sure, Christians may be a little upset but religion and government are separate. America is quickly moving towards a more liberal agenda. What I would be more concerned with rather than gay rights and pedophilia is that our econonomy and budget are out of control and this has nothing to do with people's rights.



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sc94597 said:
vivster said:
I hope incest and ephebophilia comes next. The bans on those are just ridiculous.

 Yeah I don't particularly advocate these two things, but I think they need to be legalized, as right now they lead to ridiculous sentences: to act on ephebophilia especially. I think anyone who has been sexually aware for a few years is capable of giving consent, and for most people that is well before the 15-19 that ephebophilia entails. Some might argue that an older person can impression somebody that young, but the same is true for an older person and a 20 year old, or even two individuals of the same age. The whole point of these laws is to protect pre-pubescent children, and that is because there is no way they can understand what sex really means and whther or not they can give consent. A minor who is for the most part post-pubescent can accurately give consent because they understand what sex entails and what it means to them. Obviously the age range needs to be high enough to consider variation of when puberty starts, but other than that I see no problem with the age of consent being 15 years old.

I think it's stupid to set arbitrary ages. As you said, the puberty varies and as such it should be treated case by case. By a higher age you do protect late bloomers but you will restrict the early ones. I see no reason to set an age for anything. It's all about psychology.

Setting a definite age is like saying you only count as a gay man once you had anal sex. It's absolutely arbitrary.

These arbitrary restrictions might make the judicial process easier but they lead to ridiculous sentences in certain cases.



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On those things, one is out of place, because it's the only one that doesn't involve sex. Hmm, anyway, of the 4, I think humanity will get over them middle 2, frown on the first one and still say no on the latter due to other non-religious reasons.

This said there will always be an issue because of exploitation of those things. Same sex marriage/realtionships is not exactly something that is exploited but all those things can be in various ways.



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Etan_Clan said:

It's not hurting anyone is it? I mean sure, Christians may be a little upset but religion and government are separate. America is quickly moving towards a more liberal agenda. What I would be more concerned with rather than gay rights and pedophilia is that our econonomy and budget are out of control and this has nothing to do with people's rights.


This. I don't dislike liberals or conservatives, only the mudslinging aspect that defines BOTH of them. And this whole thing, while wonderful news for gays and Gay Rights, is nothing more than a distraction from how horribly run our country has become. This is thanks entirely to one group of people, and the answer isn't liberals or conservatives. 

 

The answer is politicians. Government jobs aren't supposed to be so lucrative. They aren't supposed to pay so well or come with so much influence. It's supposed to be a service to your fellow man, not a business. When politicians make as much money as they do from giving themselves pay raises and accepting lobbyist bribes, it stops being about your fellow man and starts being about your own self interest. What's worse is that they control everything now, and there's no way to get them out short of a full scale revolution. You can't run, because the media they bought won't cover you and you won't be allowed in their special groups. You won't win because the votes they already bought our faked amounts to more than you can possibly achieve. And if you do win, you won't last because they bought your vice president and had you killed. It's a system we're locked out of and at the same time locked into. Stuff like legalizing gay marriage at this point in time is just a sleight of hand. "Pay attention to the shiny ball while we raise your taxes, you morons!"

 

tl;dr Congratulations, my gay friends, but know this victory is bittersweet in that the current media coverage is now NOT focused on whatever awful things or government is doing. 



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