It indeed needs to be successful, they really need to learn from their mistakes and improve

with physical console sales:

1 person = 1 console sold, 400$ of hardware.

streaming:

1 gigantic server pr 1000 users, might cost 400,000$

still comes out to 1 person = 400$ in hardware.

The main advantage, would be people dont game 24/7.... so you can get away with less hardware pr user, this way.

However instead of putting the cost of electristy on your consumers, you ll end up haveing to foot the enormous power pills for these servers.

Also you think the Bandwidth usage and costs of internet is bad for gameing companies now? when you add in streaming, costs will explode up to a 100 times or more.

"Streaming means more powerful hardware, not less."

The limit is the bandwidth speeds needed by the consumers & the game streaming company, along with the increased costs of streaming at higher resolutions ect.

"Streaming would literally be superior to consoles"

You get higher input lag and pings though... theres just no way around that, having to first send your input from your house, to the game company, have the servers register them and then send back the appropreate footage..

Something that isnt a issue with your own console.

I dont think "streaming" is a better solution... I think its a easier one, to get consumers with, because it could be very cheap to get started with.

But it ll always be a worse way to game than haveing your own physical device.

They will have to earn it 1st - I took a chance buying the wii U at launch and never again- they took most wii u purchasers for granted and still are today- So no matter what their future is, they will have to earn their relevance going forward as far as I am concerned- If they give the same type effort re the NX as they did re the Wii U then they don t deserve to be in the console business anymore-

So I hope they learned something and I hope they will invest in their own future instead of just throw something out there hoping it will sell and hoping 3rd parties will support it on the front end while they sit back and wait to see if it is worth THIER investment in their own console-

Nintendo needs to earn it and should need to earn it- the don t need/deserve any sympathy money (no multibillion dollar corp does)

Agreed. NX needs to sell at least 30m to prove (If only to investors) that they are not a sinking ship. They at least need to buck that trend of every Nintendo console doing worse than the previous one (Please we all know the Wii was an unusual fluke).

NX should be able to sell 50 million provided the marketplace doesn't change too drastically (though it could) and it's a handheld centric platform.

IMO NX is a handheld-first type device that will allow the same games to played on the television somehow. Whether that is a home "dock" type device or a seperate brother mini-console or something, I don't know but that's how I see it.

NX should flop if it doesn't appeal to the gamers.

I'm a gamer not a charity.

People have been saying this for 15 years, it's not going to happen.

@OP

So am I doing my part when I buy the system and don't buy any games for it? That's what I did with Wii U.

Agreed 100%. If it's not then Nintendo will be software only + mayyyyybbbeee more QOL things.

Nintendo is stupid.

They don't even want powerful hardware.

But expect 3rd parties to make good content on it.

There are no benefits in doing this, Nintendo. (what good is a lower price when it's not selling for the problems caused by weak hardware?)

"Doing your part" isn't really the point I was trying to make. I'm just saying that if Nintendo doesn't hit it out of the park with the NX, they aren't the ones who will suffer, we are. They'll just make another console with a far less hardcore focus, while we may have to actually consider only playing on other hardware. Like I see them going iTV/micro console if the NX fails.

You shouldn't do anything you don't want to do. I was just making an observation.

Of their past 4 consoles, 3 have performed poorly. That's really bad news. If they have a fourth failure, no one will want to back nintendo consoles.