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I dunno what the fuss is about "racist topic", seems logical to me. America was built on racism, it's by whites and it's for whites. A subtle veil of tolerance over the core idea won't change this. I totally expect this to gain more and more ground in the minds of white majority, scapegoating the rest for a great deal of existing problems (conveniently the POTUS himself is one of those). For now though as long there's a continous supply of fodder in the troughs the cattle is happy and cheerful, undoubtly this won't last.



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amp316 said:
Greatest President of all time?!

You must only remember him and Bush.

It's said Englishmen leave without saying a goodbye, but it appears they never actually leave.



Obama is the worst president in the history of the country. Owing the following "accomplishments"

1. Supported increase in borderline illegal drone strikes
2. Supported secret programs of monitoring and spying on citizens
3. Increased Russian territorial aggression during his tenure
4. Saw the creation and subsequent spread of IS: has done nothing substantial to combat this.
5. Expedited destabilization of Syria by giving aid to what would become IS (relating to #4). Syrian "red line".
6. Racial tensions at levels not seen since the 50's in the US.
7. Obama Care obliterating middle class economy. Premiums on the rise.
8. Increased reliance on well fare; job growth retardation related to decisions such as Keystone Pipeline.

I'm sure there is plenty of more and he's certainly not done wrecking the country. Obama is probably the false messiah prophesied in the bible. Now we're just waiting on the third Anti-Christ.



i dont think that immigration reform is good. who will come? catholics, and you cant run a state well if they are a big part or the majority. (the only somewhat well run catholic state is france, and they have realy harsh rules for religion and arent that catholic, they are more atheists who like xmas) catholic states are mostly highly corrupt and have a crime problem.
the itialian mafia, the irish mob, mexican narcos, whats have all those groups in common? they are catholics.
did you ever hear about the swedish mob i guess not, they arent catholics... its not like all mexicans are born as corrupt mobsters, but their religions makes it way easyer to justify crimes.



BraveNewWorld said:
Obama may be the worst President in United States history. The Trans Pacific Partnership will destroy the world as we know it. It's no coincidence that gay marriage and the anti-Confederate battle flag rhetoric hit at the same time TPP is being voted upon. It was planned to go down at this time while Liberals, the majority of the population, are celebrating a gay rights 'victory' and banning a flag.

http://obamatrade.com/why-no-tpp/


The TPP - it is a real shame that people are ignoring it. Well played, Obama.



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GuyWithHighIQ said:

I know I'm going to be called a troll, but I think the obscure truth about this country's history should be known.

The US, since its inception, was founded by white, western Europeans for western Europeans only. It is actually against the Founding Fathers' wishes for any non-white to live here and hold citizenship.

Based on excerpts from the Founding Fathers, one could even argue that it's unconstitutional for non-whites to live in the US. At that point in time when the Constitution was first drafted, it is probable that the Founding Fathers were only referring to white people when they used the term "men".

If you google and look around, Jefferson said that the US would be dominated by whites and that the Native Americans would be displaced.

Even disregarding what the Founding Fathers wanted, I don't even see why you consider non-white immigration a positive, as there is no benefit socially or economically for immigration.

More than not, immigrants cause a drain in public finances, commit more crime, and stagnate wages. Racially homogeneous populations with relatively high IQs are the most conducive for success.

Of course, I don't blame immigrants for wanting to go to countries that they themselves can not build, but my question to them is where they will go once the white people die out and the US turns into a 3rd world country like the country they tried to escape from.

You can not run from your problems. Stay in your own countries and fix your own problems. Don't bother other countries.

You do realise the US owns huge portions of its growth to slavery. The whole notion you're referring of serving whites only was disowned with the Civil War and immigrants "own problems" are highly tied to colonialism. The far right ideals that appeal to you are simply not reflective of the populous anymore.



teigaga said:
GuyWithHighIQ said:

I know I'm going to be called a troll, but I think the obscure truth about this country's history should be known.

The US, since its inception, was founded by white, western Europeans for western Europeans only. It is actually against the Founding Fathers' wishes for any non-white to live here and hold citizenship.

Based on excerpts from the Founding Fathers, one could even argue that it's unconstitutional for non-whites to live in the US. At that point in time when the Constitution was first drafted, it is probable that the Founding Fathers were only referring to white people when they used the term "men".

If you google and look around, Jefferson said that the US would be dominated by whites and that the Native Americans would be displaced.

Even disregarding what the Founding Fathers wanted, I don't even see why you consider non-white immigration a positive, as there is no benefit socially or economically for immigration.

More than not, immigrants cause a drain in public finances, commit more crime, and stagnate wages. Racially homogeneous populations with relatively high IQs are the most conducive for success.

Of course, I don't blame immigrants for wanting to go to countries that they themselves can not build, but my question to them is where they will go once the white people die out and the US turns into a 3rd world country like the country they tried to escape from.

You can not run from your problems. Stay in your own countries and fix your own problems. Don't bother other countries.

You do realise the US owns huge portions of its growth to slavery. The whole notion you're referring of serving whites only was disowned with the Civil War and immigrants "own problems" are highly tied to colonialism. The far right ideals that appeal to you are simply not reflective of the populous anymore.

There were hundreds of thousands of white Irish slaves too, but i'm sure you know that already right?

Anyway he's been banned so no point replying to him now.Best if we all move on.



homer said:
SuaveSocialist said:
Personally, I already think he's GOAT. In addition to that list, he supported gay marriage and struck down that "don't ask don't tell" nonsense, he's improving relations with Cuba, and his sanctions on Russia has Putin's balls in a vice. They should carve his face on Mt. Rushmore.

But I think there are three things, any of which would do, that would leave an even greater impression. Immigration reform (obviously), ending the death penalty, and legalizing marijuana.


This is not Obama's win. 

I agree; the things he has said and done for gay rights is a win for all America.



I don't think so but then again, I don't live in the US. Based on his policies though and the growing debt, I don't think he's that great.



    

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McDonaldsGuy said:

Then IMO Obama is the best President ever.

- Kills Osama

- Passes the Health Care Act

- Gay marriage is legalized during his term

- Ends Iraq War

- Helps economy recover

- America safest both crime and terrorism rise in the past 50 years

If he is able to get immigration reform passed to me it will be a 100% success. What do you guys think? What does Obama need to do now to secure his place in history as GOAT?

To pinpoint the economic recovery on him is pretty far fetched. Look back in history, and in 8 years, the economy would have recovered no matter who the president was. I don't care if it was a different Democrat, a Republican, an Independent, the economy would have recovered. Not to mention the President really can't do much of anything (it is ultimately laws via Congress, etc.)

Gay marriage had absolutely nothing to do with him (it was the supreme court's decision). Yes, he supported it (as do I), but he was not why it passed.

The Health Care Act is incredibly debatable, as there are a LOT of people who have been completely screwed over financially by it.

All I'm getting at, is people praise the President for things that occur during their Presidency even if he has nothing to do with it. Greatest President ever is a long shot from being true.



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