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gabzjmm23 said:
that Wii U graphics is awesome i think people would love an AC type of game like that. cartoony in a sense. since AC needs something fresh....
but Wii U is on its 3rd year, Nintendo should have collaborated with 3rd party developers that Wii U owners would have a different art style in a sense.

i've bought AC IV and III on Wii U, haven't played much though, but they are my backlog Wii U games. Even Watch Dogs i have it for the Wii U.


If I'm not mistaken, that's Sea of Thieves, Rare's upcoming title.

OT: 3rd parties tried that with Wii - one quite good example of that is Star Wars: Force Unleashed 1&2. 2nd even had Smash alike multiplayer that was unique to Wii version, and I generally find that version better than 'main' PS360.

Also notable title was Ghostbusters: Video Game, it had cartoonish graphics and, according to VG, sold better on Wii than on other platforms.

But the problem is, Wii user base was massive, WiiU's is pretty bad. If WiiU was successfull, I have no doubt we would be seeing again that approach.



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JNK said:

And i Want it to look like this on Wii U:

 


Solution:

Buy a Xbox One + buy Sea of theives.

 

 



Darwinianevolution said:

I don't see it happening for two reasons: First, taking the time to completely reskin or change the artstyle of the game would take too much time and resources in the eyes of the publishers, and they could easily just release them on PS4/XBone as special editions. Second, most of western titles have as a selling point how hyperrealistic they look, and people buy them for that. People who try to avoid games that look cartoony will just keep ignoring the system.

WiiU won't make a turnaround, at least not for western developers. If Nintendo made extra effords in Japan (Youkai Watch U, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter U), they could expand their userbase with fans of those kind of games, but there's no hope now for the FIFA-CoD-AC-Battlefield audience to pick up a WiiU. Better luck with that on the NX.


thats pretty much the same that im thinking but in my opinion my idea would be a workaround.

Many western gamers care just about "the most realistic graphics".

But I doubt those people are on the wii u. People on the wii u do like cartoony and "fun" looking games and prefer them. Splatoon sold awesome as an example.

 

So even if they would release this cell shading graphics on ps/xbox i doubt it would be sucsessful there. But it would be sucsessful on wii u.

Cartoony looking games (like plants vs zombies) did pretty bad on these plattforms (compared to battlefield 4, call of duty etc.)

But Splatoon did very good on wii u compared to call of duty.



JRPGfan said:
JNK said:

And i Want it to look like this on Wii U:

 

 


Solution:

Buy a Xbox One + buy Sea of theives.

 

 

 


That's not his point. His point is that third parties should reskin the Nintendo version of their games. That already happend with FIFA or PES on Wii, and that was the excuse for the low sales.

As I mentioned, there was no excuse in GameCube era because the userbase the was on the console were willing to buy games like Madden, Fifa and Resident Evil.



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JRPGfan said:
JNK said:

And i Want it to look like this on Wii U:

 


Solution:

Buy a Xbox One + buy Sea of theives.

 

 


yeah i do know the game. I will get it on pc though ;)

BTW. Im curios how much copies this game will sell on xbox one. To be honest, i doubt many xbox one users want those games. I read alot "wow this game is for 6 years old" as youtube comments below the trailer



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JNK said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Don't delay your games, make decent ports and learn how to use the GPGPU if you're too lazy to decently code for the CPU and don't skimp on features and DLC.


Well even games that considered all that sold horrible to be honest.


because most gave up before the system even reached the 5 million mark.



If nintendo games all ended up reskinned to look cartoonish, wouldnt people get bored of that eventually?
All games looking alike?



From a business perspective, there's no financial incentive for 3rd parties to bring major multiplatform games like AC to the WiiU.

If Nintendo were to offer significantly cheaper royalties than PS or Xbox platforms, publishers would re-align their development and marketing platforms to include Nintendo platforms since they know a single unit of Wii U/NX software would be more profitable than if it were sold on PS/Xbox. Convincing the customer base to switch platforms would actually be worth it to the likes of Ubisoft, Activision, and EA because it would actually boost profits.



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WolfpackN64 said:
JNK said:


Well even games that considered all that sold horrible to be honest.


because most gave up before the system even reached the 5 million mark.

come on, Call of duty Ghost 2,4 Mio copies on xbox one which had a smaller installed hardware base then the wii u got in the complete following year  (0,26mio on wii u). You dont sell 90% less copies jsut because of some missing dlcs^^



JRPGfan said:
If nintendo games all ended up reskinned to look cartoonish, wouldnt people get bored of that eventually?
All games looking alike?


Not only that, third parties won't waste resources for that. If the game ends flopping, users will excuse that the game is not the same as the other versions and they didn't put effort. This is the same cycle like last gen on Wii.



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