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Puppyroach said:
Well, no surprise at all, it has been the vision for MS since several years back but it is W10 that will make it a reality. MS will not care if they sell less consoles than the competition since the XBox fan base will span across PC, console, smartphone and tablet. Great times!


You call it great times, i call it the end of the Xbox console. If their exclusive software keeps going to PC and mobiles, there will be no reason to get an Xbox home console.



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Xbox is slowly moving over PC. I think It's smart move by MS. They get my money through software on PC since I don't actually plan to buy Xbox One this gen. Good move imo



Nem said:
Puppyroach said:
Well, no surprise at all, it has been the vision for MS since several years back but it is W10 that will make it a reality. MS will not care if they sell less consoles than the competition since the XBox fan base will span across PC, console, smartphone and tablet. Great times!


You call it great times, i call it the end of the Xbox console. If their exclusive software keeps going to PC and mobiles, there will be no reason to get an Xbox home console.

Well it takes more than exclusives to sell hardware, just ask Nintendo regarding WIi U (struggling to achieve OG Xbox sales). Is there really any concern of their notable exclusives coming to mobile? I mean seriously? Is someone waiting for Halo 5 on iPad?

Anybody who thinks a significant number Xbox sales will be lost by major MS exclusives coming to PC are simply out of touch with the average consumer. Sony is buying advertising for major games that aren't even exclusive and on PC. Some of which boost hardware sales more than actual exclusives. Hence, the PC and console audience are very different for the most part. Hence, there are forces stronger than exclusives that often sell hardware.

Throughout most of the 7th gen people on the interweb said, "don't buy a 360, all those games are gonna be on PC!" Now we are well into the 8th and I'm actually disappointed by how few 360 games we have on the PC. I mean c'mon MS, PC gamers are dying of old age without having seen how the Halo and Gears trilogies end.



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Mr Puggsly said:

Why should MS stop making hardware? They have tons of money, they can take plenty of risks. I say MS should keep closing the gap of what is a game console versus PC. Bringing WIndows 10 to X1 is more of that.


Yet they dont spend it nor do they take the risks, funny.

You are reaching deep for the most sad pro xbox idealisms, but but money they have money.  You know like most on here MS is not going to waste money.  This is a business and xbox has not been a good one.  Their share holkders have already called for xboxs end.   And nadella is no console supporter.  Brining up their money is the last line of a losing argument, should have not stooped so low.  I cant take you seriously no more.

I have to say it is funny seeing the pro ms guys defend xbox yet argue pro closing the pc/xbox gap where the fact remains that action is the begining of x1s death.  Theres some fuuuny hypocratical spinning and thinking there.  Hearing talk like this from MS makes me want to trade in the X1 whiel i still  can get some $ out of it, seems its quick becoming a poinless product much of the doing of its own creator.   



Yes, hopefully the 360 remakes of Banjo-Kazooie and Perfect Dark are coming to PC. I want to play those games for years and would never buy a Xbox again.



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GTstation said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Why should MS stop making hardware? They have tons of money, they can take plenty of risks. I say MS should keep closing the gap of what is a game console versus PC. Bringing WIndows 10 to X1 is more of that.


Yet they dont spend it nor do they take the risks, funny.

You are reaching deep for the most sad pro xbox idealisms, but but money they have money.  You know like most on here MS is not going to waste money.  This is a business and xbox has not been a good one.  Their share holkders have already called for xboxs end.   And nadella is no console supporter.  Brining up their money is the last line of a losing argument, should have not stooped so low.  I cant take you seriously no more.

I have to say it is funny seeing the pro ms guys defend xbox yet argue pro closing the pc/xbox gap where the fact remains that action is the begining of x1s death.  Theres some fuuuny hypocratical spinning and thinking there.  Hearing talk like this from MS makes me want to trade in the X1 whiel i still  can get some $ out of it, seems its quick becoming a poinless product much of the doing of its own creator.   

MS doesn't spend money? Relatively recently they bought Skype, Minecraft, Gears of War, fund sequels and new IPs, they also keep pushing Xbox inspite of the wishes of some stockholders.

I don't get the logic of some people, why does MS putting games on Windows make the X1 useless? They are simply giving you options. They want you playing their games anyway you want... as long as you're doing it with a MS product like WIndows or Xbox. Many console gamers aren't gonna buy a gaming PC so they also need Xbox to push those games. MS is pleasing console gamers and WIndows gamers, the average gamer is not both of those.

How many sales is X1 losing from putting games on PC? 10 million?100 million? People are getting worked about Xbox games on PC and we can't even measure what negative impact it has if any on the X1.

I highly encourage you to trade in your X1. Its still gonna be around for a while and trading it in can get in the hands of someone that will actually enjoy it. But you probably won't trade it, you'll just keep it and complain about it on forums because that's the life you've chosen.



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Mr Puggsly said:
MoHasanie said:

Well I can't disagree with any of your arguments. 

The $499 had Kinect with it but the $349 one comes with a free game in most places (MCC or AC Unity). 

Its worth a lot but it hardly makes a profit. If I was a big shareholder, I'd want Microsoft to stop making consoles. They can continue making games but should stopping making hardware. 

As far as I'm aware the X1, PS4, and WIi U come with games. I can get a PS4 right now for $399 with Batman:AK. Before that PS4 came with Last of Us. People mock X1 for throwing free games in, but free games with a PS4 seems to be ignored.

Xbox doesn't make a significant profit on its own. But you have to also consider the audience it has brought to MS and services MS has pushed on them. The reason people use MS's streaming video and music services is because of Xbox. Fans of Xbox are probably more likely to buy other MS products as well. The Xbox brand has made millions and millions of people care about MS products.

People consider X1 a failure yet it still may sell more units than a SNES (that was a popular machine, right?). Their investments in the Xbox brand don't just die with the consoles, MS can push those IPs on other products like Windows, mobile devices, Hololens, etc. So again, Xbox has been a worthwhile endeavor.

Why should MS stop making hardware? They have tons of money, they can take plenty of risks. I say MS should keep closing the gap of what is a game console versus PC. Bringing WIndows 10 to X1 is more of that.

Also, the industry doesn't benefit from MS leaving console gaming. An industry with only Sony pushing a core console is boring. More importantly, there wouldn't be much incentive for Sony to stay competitive. Prices would be higher, less money invested in IPs, less free games, etc. PS3 is what happened when Sony wasn't afraid of competition. X1 changed for the better because of competition.

Wow, I didn't even know the PS4 was giving a free game too. Interesting.

Microsoft's music and video streaming services aren't that popular. I think they've changed the name a couple of times and now its called Xbox music. I don't know anyone that uses Xbox Video or Xbox music. Do you? 

 Millions isn't much for Microsoft. There are probably billions of people that rely on Microsoft products. 

I don't think X1 is a failure. As long as its profitable in the end, that's the most important thing. The only failure this gen is the Wii U. 

I don't think Xbox has been worthwile. The first Xbox lost billions and never recovered its losses. The 360 became profitable towards the end of its life, and must have recovered its early losses (which were huge), but overall, the 360 wasn't that profitable if you compare it to the Wii or PS2.

Because MS does software best. All the hardware they make hasn't been that profitable. Xbox does ok, but those surface tablets lose money. The Nokia phone division was another odd purchase for MS. 

I agree that competition is great. But the console industry is dying. We are probably looking at the second last gen of consoles. And Xbox can't win against a competitive Playstation. Plus the console market has become too small for 3 companies. 



    

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MoHasanie said:
By the looks of it, it sounds like they want to bring all their exclusives games to PC and mobile as well, making the purchase of an X1 useless.

So it looks like they gonna ditch Xbox Division



Nem said:
Puppyroach said:
Well, no surprise at all, it has been the vision for MS since several years back but it is W10 that will make it a reality. MS will not care if they sell less consoles than the competition since the XBox fan base will span across PC, console, smartphone and tablet. Great times!


You call it great times, i call it the end of the Xbox console. If their exclusive software keeps going to PC and mobiles, there will be no reason to get an Xbox home console.

The real world doesn't work like that.



Puppyroach said:
Nem said:


You call it great times, i call it the end of the Xbox console. If their exclusive software keeps going to PC and mobiles, there will be no reason to get an Xbox home console.

The real world doesn't work like that.

Well tell me,  O great one how does the real world worked lol , while also explain how  to make people interested to buy Xbox one if there is no exclusive games on Xbox one.