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What do you think of the death sentence?

Well deserved! 201 56.46%
 
He showed remorse; he sho... 73 20.51%
 
I am undecided 12 3.37%
 
see results 70 19.66%
 
Total:356

Yeah, death. Save the tax payers money they would spend letting him live for 60 years.



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palou said:
I do not believe that punishment should be, in any way or form, goal of the justice system. The goal of all forms of government should be to search ideal life conditions for all people, including criminals. Punishing purely for revenge is counterproductive to this, and for me, is higly unmoral.

I do not believe that a death sentence would impede other individuals of committing similar acts, over a life sentence, quite the contrary, in fact. Many religious extremists consider death to be more honourable than being captured; anyone afraid of death awould not participate in these activities in the first place, considiring the high risk (and examples of this risk, such as the other brother.)

I thus believe the death sentance to be both unethical and counterproductive.


This really made me angry - you just basically said his victims mean nothing. It's "immoral" to kill him yet perfectly OK for him to place a bomb near an 8 year old to blow up. Unreal.



McDonaldsGuy said:
palou said:
I do not believe that punishment should be, in any way or form, goal of the justice system. The goal of all forms of government should be to search ideal life conditions for all people, including criminals. Punishing purely for revenge is counterproductive to this, and for me, is higly unmoral.

I do not believe that a death sentence would impede other individuals of committing similar acts, over a life sentence, quite the contrary, in fact. Many religious extremists consider death to be more honourable than being captured; anyone afraid of death awould not participate in these activities in the first place, considiring the high risk (and examples of this risk, such as the other brother.)

I thus believe the death sentance to be both unethical and counterproductive.


This really made me angry - you just basically said his victims mean nothing. It's "immoral" to kill him yet perfectly OK for him to place a bomb near an 8 year old to blow up. Unreal.

I never said that it was right of him to do what he did. It is, without a doubt, an atricity without comparisipn. However, for the reasons previously stated, killing him will not help to prevent further such incidents. And in such a case, I do no see how it would be productif, for us as a society, to take his life. What he did is extremely wrong, but I do not see the point of punishment, in general, beyond preventing further evils.

Revenge has no place in our modern society.



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palou said:
McDonaldsGuy said:


This really made me angry - you just basically said his victims mean nothing. It's "immoral" to kill him yet perfectly OK for him to place a bomb near an 8 year old to blow up. Unreal.

I never said that it was right of him to do what he did. It is, without a doubt, an atricity without comparisipn. However, for the reasons previously stated, killing him will not help to prevent further such incidents. And in such a case, I do no see how it would be productif, for us as a society, to take his life. What he did is extremely wrong, but I do not see the point of punishment, in general, beyond preventing further evils.


Cool. You're ignoring the possibility of escape, parole, or him murdering other prisoners/prison guards. But they don't matter. We have to do everthing we can to protect him! You're also telling every other would be murderer if you kill a kid don't worry you'll get 3 warm meals a day for the rest of your life.

It's not about prevention - it's about justice. The guy planted a bomb next to an 8 year old. Do you have kids? A younger brother or cousin? 



I'm glad he's shown remorse. Of course that won't bring anyone back. As for the death penalty I'm opposed to it.

You (the state) have him caught and imprisoned and completely vulnerable there is no pride that could be taken in killing him now.

I didn't vote in the poll because I don't want the death penalty in any case regardless of whether or not he showed remorse.



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McDonaldsGuy said:
palou said:

I never said that it was right of him to do what he did. It is, without a doubt, an atricity without comparisipn. However, for the reasons previously stated, killing him will not help to prevent further such incidents. And in such a case, I do no see how it would be productif, for us as a society, to take his life. What he did is extremely wrong, but I do not see the point of punishment, in general, beyond preventing further evils.


Cool. You're ignoring the possibility of escape, parole, or him murdering other prisoners/prison guards. But they don't matter. We have to do everthing we can to protect him! You're also telling every other would be murderer if you kill a kid don't worry you'll get 3 warm meals a day for the rest of your life.

It's not about prevention - it's about justice. The guy planted a bomb next to an 8 year old. Do you have kids? A younger brother or cousin? 

I don't believe in the concept of justice. It is pointless and uncivilised, in its pure form.

If the prison is properly suited, he should not escape. You would be surprised how effective rehabilitation can be, statistically. 

Prison life does not have to be easy, either, as long as it is productive in that manner. You could have minor labor for the use of society.

It is equally untrue that a mild sentance would encourage more murder cases. (Again, this is very well documented, statistically. Some of the countries with the loosest criminal systems have the lowest crime rates in the world.)

Read the second paragraph of my first post; I belive that a life sentence would in this case do more to dissuade further acts than death.



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I'm not even American, and I don't care about his apology. This wasn't crime of passion. It was planned, and it was planned with the intent to take as many lives as possible. He can take his sorry and shove it up his ass. Deserves the death penalty as far as I'm concerned.



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Never said:

I'm glad he's shown remorse. Of course that won't bring anyone back. As for the death penalty I'm opposed to it.

You (the state) have him caught and imprisoned and completely vulnerable there is no pride that could be taken in killing him now.

I didn't vote in the poll because I don't want the death penalty in any case regardless of whether or not he showed remorse.


He's not showing remorse, he's playing the game and you've been played.

Sociopaths love playing people like you.



Slow and painful death would be best but alas, it won't happen that way.



Low78wagon said:
Slow and painful death would be best but alas, it won't happen that way.


How would that help anyone?



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