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Tmfwang on 30 June 2015
enlightenedmaster said:
Tmfwang said:
enlightenedmaster said:


second son and shadowfall are spin-off not the original series like san andreas was GTA spinoff

 

and RACHET and Clank won't matter for sales and as a major title,thats why i haven't mentioned it

Ratchet and Clank is a big flagship franchise for Sony and the PS4, it will matter a lot for sales and it is a major title... If you can mention Infamous you can absolutely mention R&C!

Ratchet and Clank used to be a top and main franchise but SONY has milked it to death over the last 10 years with 1 game per year with horrendus sales

its no longer big franchise or even main sony franchise and doesn't sell well itself letalone move consoles

infamous is much bigger than Ratchet today and more people like it

The last ratchet games sold poorly because they weren't true to the series, the next ratchet game will. If you read comments on anything regarding the next ratchet game you will see that a lot of people are buying a PS4 to play this game. I can see the next ratchet game selling easily over 3 million copies, and at least boost the ps4 sales by 40%.



Predicted 15+ million lifetime-sales for God of War:

- http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=234612&page=1

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DerNebel on 30 June 2015
enlightenedmaster said:
DerNebel said:

Oh man, lol yeah sure Sony is going to expand Naughty Dog to a 400+ people studio and have them churn out a game each year now,cause that's how easy it is. They also would never end Uncharted cause as we all know ND would never dare put an end to a popular series.

yes uncharted wud not end as it is becoming SONY's biggest franchise,don't compare it to CRASH and JAX & DAXTER as those were more of kiddie games and SONY back then had many more exclusives and main titles like GTA,FF,GT,MGS and all other games mainly selling on PS1 and PS2 which is not the case after PS3 debacle

and ND doesn't decide,SONY does.basic common buisness sense if you have been following tech buiness and SONY and PLAYSTIOn as company and brand

 

And regarding GTA

1. You did say 100-150 mil:

"Also SONY blew $100-150million just on GTA5 DLC,Bundle and Marketing exclusivity.they will easily blow $500million on GTA6 Timed,DLC,Bundle and Marketing exclusivity."

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7387455

i might have typed that as a range but SONY surely spent $50-100million on GTA5 bundle and marketing deal,$50million more doesn't really make much of a deal

2. If you knew anything about making smart investments, then you'd understand how ridiculous the thought of Sony paying hundreds of millions of dollars not once but twice in a generation for GTA timed exclusivity is.

smart investment...........lol

PS3 bombed because of SONY arrogance and exlcusivity losses

it wud be the best investment to secure th biggest gaming property which alone wud win MICROSOFT or SONY the generation hands down

and most of the investment will be easily paid up by royalty and console profits on the game itself

plus much more as PLAYSATION and SONY brand building and profitability and comeback and other royalities from other games and console sales and long-term PLAYSTATION brand logeivity

and GTA going exlcusive and PS4 performance will make many other big game going exclsuive too

 

talking about buisness sense and talking abt being a gamer,if you have 0.1% of gaming and buisness sense or following then then you wudn't even question abt GTA exclusivity IMPACT

Sony are the freaking market leader, they know the majority of people will buy the game on PS4,

YES they are but they were market leaders with PS2 too and then nobdy saw PS3 bombing coming

and with MICROSOFT $20Billion profits each year and Nintendo getting sense stuffed into them and their biggest franchises MARIO,ZELDA,etc coming back

and not to talk abt the imminent  APPLE TV launch in the next few years and ANDROID TV and SAMSUNG,GOOGLE,etc coming in

 

SONY surely needs to totally seal off their leadership

MICROSOFT buying TAKE-TWO/ELECTRONIC ARTS/ACTIVISION or APPLE launching APPLE TV or ANDROID cheap TV's cud easily dethrone SONY and PS4 in merely 2-3years

we have seen that before,SONY doesn't need a repeat of PS3 and isn't anywhere near the company it was 10 years ago

SONY wud very well fall if PLAYSTATION falls,its their last main electronics brand

 

there is absolutely no point in them paying a ridiculous sum like that when they can achieve a perfectly fine result for a fraction of the money by paying for marketing,

LOL

you really don't seem like you follow gaming or have any buisness expertise or sense

marketing wud be good but nowhere near a Timed exclusive deal

 

and with their marketing,royalties,console sales and brand-strenghting and also the 3-game deal they already have with ROCKSTAR,it wudn't even be that expensive

 

the same goes for T2 and Rockstar who can easily just get the extra cash from Sony (or MS for that matter) without the hassle of pissing of the other fanbase.

When GTA Release,it is in a league of its own.you want to play the game then buy the console its releasing on

ROCKSTART has always pissed off fans and still it hasn't mattered one bit to their sales

and the way fans switch sides and most are casuals,they don't really care if it will be PS4 exclusive and with PS4 dominance,most of 360 fans already will go to PS4

 

Finally regarding being such a big video game follower and doing your homework and me not having a clue about anything, I recently stumbled upon this:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7372264

Yeah, man...you sure know what you're talking about. Lol

REALLY?.........................haha

please think before replying,its not even funny anymore.your arrogance looks very cheap,i am thinking of arrogant stupid teenagers who think they rule the world from ur posts

 

FINAL FANTASY 15 - sure shot million seller

FINAL FANTASY 7 REMAKE - sure shot million seller

YAKUZA - sure shot million seller

RESIDENT EVIL - sure shot million seller

GRAND THEFT AUTO 6 - sure shot million seller

KINGDOM HEARTS 3 - sure shot million seller

GRAN TURISMO 7 - sure shot million seller

DRAGON QUEST - sure shot million seller

METAL GEAR SOLID PHANTOM PAIN - sure shot million seller

METAL GEAR SOLID 1 REMAKE(if it happens) - - sure shot million seller

STAR OCEAN(depends how good the game is and how SONY markets the game) - given the reasons

CRASH BANDICOOT(if SONY and ACTIVISION bring it back) - given the reasons

TEKKEN(if the game can be brought back to its greatness and how SONY markets it) - given the reasons

JUST DANCE(if made PS4 exlcusive and marketed well and good game) - given the reasons

PARASITE EVE(if big budget and brought back in a big way) - given the reasons

STREET FIGHTER(depends how SONY markets the game) - given the reasons

SHENMUE 3(depends how SONY markets the game) - given the reasons

CALL OF DUTY(depends how SONY markets the game) - given the reasons

MONSTER HUNTER(if a full-fledged game is released) - given the reasons

HORIZON(if Japanese gamers like it as they like mech games and monster hunting games) - given the reasons

ONE PIECE(depening how the game is) - given the reasons

HOT SHOTS GOLF(depending how good the game is) - given the reasons

DRAGON'S DOGMA(depends how good the game is) - given the reasons

DYNASTY WARRIORS(depends how good the game is) - given the reasons

 

 

if you think my above predictions are not true and totally perfect then you surely are new to gaming and have no sense of gaming history and JAPANESE gaming past



Jesus Christ... ok I'm not even going to reply to all of this because it seems entirely pointless, when everyone is telling you that your predictions are BS (I've seen your other thread about GTA becoming a timed exclusive and the reactions in it) and you're just resorting to calling everyone stupid since you are apparently oh so "enlightened" and have such great "business expertise", then that's just something that I don't have the nerve to deal with. I'll just continue living in the real world.

But I'll say something about your ridiculous Japan prediction:

Yakuza, MGS5 and GT 7 are sure shot million sellers? Have you even bothered checking the data on this site? Not even FFVII Remake, Resident Evil 7, GTA 6 or Kingdom Hearts 3 are guaranteed to do it. Star Ocean, Tekken, Just Dance, Shenmue, Call of Duty, One Piece, Hot Shots Golf or Dynasty Warriors are completely out of the question.

9 guaranteed million seller in Japan, you have got to be completely kidding here, it's like you are entirely oblivious to what is actually happening in the japanese market.



Heavenly_King on 30 June 2015
PlayMatt said:
Too much Uncharted... Hopefully Naughty Dog will find a new way and bring us a new IP... Also it's sooooooooo hard to believe we won't have The Last of Us 2 (and ND really MUST make it)


I want Savage Starlight with a hot and sexy female lead!



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enlightenedmaster on 30 June 2015
Tmfwang said:
enlightenedmaster said:
Tmfwang said:
enlightenedmaster said:


second son and shadowfall are spin-off not the original series like san andreas was GTA spinoff

 

and RACHET and Clank won't matter for sales and as a major title,thats why i haven't mentioned it

Ratchet and Clank is a big flagship franchise for Sony and the PS4, it will matter a lot for sales and it is a major title... If you can mention Infamous you can absolutely mention R&C!

Ratchet and Clank used to be a top and main franchise but SONY has milked it to death over the last 10 years with 1 game per year with horrendus sales

its no longer big franchise or even main sony franchise and doesn't sell well itself letalone move consoles

infamous is much bigger than Ratchet today and more people like it

The last ratchet games sold poorly because they weren't true to the series, the next ratchet game will. If you read comments on anything regarding the next ratchet game you will see that a lot of people are buying a PS4 to play this game. I can see the next ratchet game selling easily over 3 million copies, and at least boost the ps4 sales by 40%.

well thats been going for a long time,SONY has absolutely milked the series

also people love Ratchet but its not like 1 million people will buy PS4 to play Ratchet

 

it will sell 2million easily if nicely made and marketed and could go upto 4-5million if blockbuster

 

i hope Ratchet comes back as its one of my fav game

and Ratchet movie and reboot and proper Ratchet game might help,but we will see when it release.they shud have released it this year as there is not much SONY first party competition



enlightenedmaster on 30 June 2015
DerNebel said:

Jesus Christ... ok I'm not even going to reply to all of this because it seems entirely pointless, when everyone is telling you that your predictions are BS (I've seen your other thread about GTA becoming a timed exclusive and the reactions in it)

most gamers are casual,they jump ship like they have found gold on the other side

last gen people said Wii would do 175million and X360 wud completely destoy PS3 and SONY wud go bankrupt on this site,back then we still had hardcore gamers on this site,now its filled with casuals

and you are giving an example of them telling me whats right and wrong................hehe

and you're just resorting to calling everyone stupid since you are apparently oh so "enlightened" and have such great "business expertise", then that's just something that I don't have the nerve to deal with. I'll just continue living in the real world.

i don't call them wrong for disareeing with me but for the attitude same like last generation when people just can't forsee and don't have the vision.they basically come to site and say whatever they like and are bias

they just didn't give critical reasoning reply's

just that,its stupid and not going to happen............what do you say to that king of shallow replies

 

real world is acutally filled with mostly below average people,i agree you shud continue as you seem to think thats the way to go and whatever doesn't sem the normal or casual is wrong...................my god

But I'll say something about your ridiculous Japan prediction:

Yakuza, MGS5 and GT 7 are sure shot million sellers? Have you even bothered checking the data on this site?

MGS5 is a sureshot with PS4 domiance and SONY looking much more vigorous and competitve this generation

Yakuza,all main Yakuza games except Yakuza 5 late in PS3 gen which released have come close to 1million or sold more than 1million.its one of the big franchises and acutally increasing popularity.It will easily sell 1million

GT7 - Aagin with PS4 dominance and SONY vigor and marketing,it will go ahead of 1million

Not even FFVII Remake,

do you even call urself a gamer?.......................my fucking god................what kind of people are there on this website

If Final Fantasy XIII-2 can come close to 1million then FF7,the biggest RPG of all time and one of the most anticipated games can surely make it

 

Resident Evil 7,

sureshot

GTA 6

if GTA5 can come clone to 1m on a battered and bombed console PS3 then surely PS4 will get it there

or Kingdom Hearts 3 are guaranteed to do it.

big game and sony will surely market it big time

Star Ocean, Tekken, Just Dance, Shenmue, Call of Duty, One Piece, Hot Shots Golf or Dynasty Warriors are completely out of the question.

no they aren't

all of them came close for their previous iterations and some even went over 1 million but PS3 bombing affected those franchises very badly and they will recover alot of their brand name and quality on PS4

9 guaranteed million seller in Japan, you have got to be completely kidding here, it's like you are entirely oblivious to what is actually happening in the japanese market.

No i am not

if you have followed SONY and PS3 and Japanese gaming then you know for sure,its doable

Japanese market has been going handheld for 10 years but there is still space for console and acutally they have hit a peak in handheld and mobile and can't go anywhere so console marketshare won't go much below and actually could comeback





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Tmfwang on 30 June 2015
enlightenedmaster said:
Tmfwang said:

The last ratchet games sold poorly because they weren't true to the series, the next ratchet game will. If you read comments on anything regarding the next ratchet game you will see that a lot of people are buying a PS4 to play this game. I can see the next ratchet game selling easily over 3 million copies, and at least boost the ps4 sales by 40%.

well thats been going for a long time,SONY has absolutely milked the series

also people love Ratchet but its not like 1 million people will buy PS4 to play Ratchet

 

it will sell 2million easily if nicely made and marketed and could go upto 4-5million if blockbuster

 

i hope Ratchet comes back as its one of my fav game

and Ratchet movie and reboot and proper Ratchet game might help,but we will see when it release.they shud have released it this year as there is not much SONY first party competition

It looks very promising at least.

 

But, its not like 1 million are going to buy a PS4 to play the next Infamous, those interested in infamous would have already purchased a PS4 to play second son tho. I think you should add R&C to your timeline, it would be a nice gesture :)



Predicted 15+ million lifetime-sales for God of War:

- http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=234612&page=1

enlightenedmaster on 01 July 2015
Tmfwang said:
enlightenedmaster said:

well thats been going for a long time,SONY has absolutely milked the series

also people love Ratchet but its not like 1 million people will buy PS4 to play Ratchet

 

it will sell 2million easily if nicely made and marketed and could go upto 4-5million if blockbuster

 

i hope Ratchet comes back as its one of my fav game

and Ratchet movie and reboot and proper Ratchet game might help,but we will see when it release.they shud have released it this year as there is not much SONY first party competition

It looks very promising at least.

 

But, its not like 1 million are going to buy a PS4 to play the next Infamous, those interested in infamous would have already purchased a PS4 to play second son tho. I think you should add R&C to your timeline, it would be a nice gesture :)

Infamous was never big,it was a medium-level franchise to fill an year of SONY's support,thats all

 

i won't add Ratchet just now,maybe later if we see something promising,now it looks like it will bomb again unless SONY helps it out