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Nothing unless they get another gimmick or give it away for free
Without order nothing can exist - without chaos nothing can evolve.
"I don't debate, I just give you that work"- Ji99saw
What if the NX was just a handheld console like the Vita that also had a playstation tv type home console?
I still believe Nintendo can come up with a good product that will sell well because at its heart Nintendo know games.
Nintendo need to create a product with a huge number of reasons to buy it.
bonzobanana said: What if the NX was just a handheld console like the Vita that also had a playstation tv type home console? I still believe Nintendo can come up with a good product that will sell well because at its heart Nintendo know games. Nintendo need to create a product with a huge number of reasons to buy it. |
I think some variation of this idea is basically what NX is.
But they can make a modern handheld a good deal more powerful than a Vita these days.
Intrinsic said: Nothing.... Sad but true. Nintendo abandoned the core gamer a long time ago, and those gamers will now first flock to sony, ms and even the PC before they even give Nintendo a second look. And that's really the problem, its not that the Nintendo staple of games are no longer there its that the amount of people that actually care about Nintendo consoles now are just insignificant. |
This. It won't change much if they manage to stop the drought with more first party contents because that's not their real problem.
ikki5 said: By doing a reverse Wii U. Making a real gaming platform that isn't weak, they actually market it. talk to 3rd party. If they don't do that, then they are dead in the water. |
So they should make a ........ U... Turn...
Darwinianevolution said: And damage some of the biggest Nintendo franchises? Do you think people that just get Nintendo systems for Pokemon, for Smash, for Mario Kart... are going to keep buying them if they had to pay for the multiplayer? That is a significant number of consoles and games sold, and Nintendo wouldn't want to lose on them. Hell, Nintendo is trying to fix their image on the online multiplayer front with games like Splatoon, paying for the online would ruin it further. Also, Nintendo could use that to diferenciate themselves on that area, specially if they get most of the multiplats. The subscription system may have been accepted, but competition in the market needs competition. Without it we get used to lose features, that is the problem. |
a) Yes, I think most Nintendo fans will still buy the system and games with paid mulitplayer. I know I would.
b) To get "most of the multiplats" Nintendo needs to make a more powerful system. They can't make a powerful system, offer good online, sell at a reasonable price, have free online and make money. Something needs to give, and charging for online can enable everything else.
c) No one cares that Nintendo's online is free right now. No one is buying Wii U for that.
You seem to not have a full grasp of Nintendo's current situation. Only 10 million people have picked up a Wii U. That's disasterous. Even if charging for online pissed off every single one of them but they made a better system with more games using the extra revenue and gathered just 11 million new customers - a fraction of the MS/Sony crowd - it would be more profitable for them.
Nintendo needs to do something new.
TheLastStarFighter said:
a) Yes, I think most Nintendo fans will still buy the system and games with paid mulitplayer. I know I would. b) To get "most of the multiplats" Nintendo needs to make a more powerful system. They can't make a powerful system, offer good online, sell at a reasonable price, have free online and make money. Something needs to give, and charging for online can enable everything else. c) No one cares that Nintendo's online is free right now. No one is buying Wii U for that. You seem to not have a full grasp of Nintendo's current situation. Only 10 million people have picked up a Wii U. That's disasterous. Even if charging for online pissed off every single one of them but they made a better system with more games using the extra revenue and gathered just 11 million new customers - a fraction of the MS/Sony crowd - it would be more profitable for them. Nintendo needs to do something new. |
Maybe so, but for every WiiU sold, there are five 3DS sold. Blocking multiplayer would affect to both handheld and home console. If it affected to home consoles alone, people would abandon their home console completely for the handhelds, something that has been happening since the N64 days. Only this time, mobiles are eating all the possible new consumers, and the support for handhelds is getting smaller and smaller everyday. If it affected to handhelds only, Nintendo would have to abandon the hardware bussines because it would kill their biggest and strongest market.
Nintendo needs around 60-70 million hardware units to be confortably profitable. If they put multiplayer under a paywall, it's going to affect handhelds, even if those devices depend more on local multiplayer than home consoles.
Reading the NPR interview with Miyamoto it seems pretty clear that Nintendo's philosophy on hardware isn't changing. Expect something cheap and low spec-ed.
I'd say the "main" part of the NX is a portable that can run games with Wii U level graphics.
There will be a dock or home console sidekick that plays the same games and maybe is able to run them at 1080P instead of a lower resolution for the TV.
It will have a Nintendo OS, but an Android back end would be my guess to allow for easy porting of Android apps which Nintendo will charge a licensing fee on, since they make a shrinking pot from traditional third party licensee fees.
People expecting a PS4/PS5 killer are going to be about as dissapointed as Metroid fans were at this E3, I'd start scaling back expectations like now.
Nintendo-published DS games first 18 months
Super Mario 64 DS
WarioWare: Touched!
Pokémon Dash
Yoshi Touch & Go
Polarium
Kirby: Canvas Curse
Meteos
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Nintendogs
Another Code: Two Memories
Metroid Prime Pinball
Mario Kart DS
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Animal Crossing: Wild World
Electroplankton
True Swing Golf
Super Princess Peach
Pokémon Trozei!
Metroid Prime Hunters
Tetris DS
Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!
New Super Mario Bros.
Nintendo-published Wii games first 18 months
Wii Sports
Excite Truck
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
WarioWare: Smooth Moves
Wii Play
Super Paper Mario
Mario Party 8
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree
Pokémon Battle Revolution
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
Battalion Wars 2
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy
Link's Crossbow Training
Endless Ocean
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Mario Kart Wii
Wii Fit
There was never a Nintendo'published software drought for either of these devices out of the gate and they had a nice blend of hardcore & casual titles along with traditional Nintendo IP & new IP. That along with strong marketing, low initial cost of entry and simple, intuitive controls made for these devices being huge successes. Nintendo needs to return to that.
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