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Who has the better line-up in 2015

Playstation 4 653 71.92%
 
Xbox One 255 28.08%
 
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AbbathTheGrim on 21 June 2015
MikeRox said:
Aerys said:


How can you decide if a game is AAA or not without knowing the specific cost of a game ? You can only make a guess.  If for you, a AAA game is just a game with pretty graphics, that means a prettier game will be more AAA than an other ?


Remember when GTA was that "crappy looking" top down game? :D

What are you talking about? GTA has aged well and actually looks very awesomely real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-UGixSMUUY



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

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Rafie on 21 June 2015

Every time I see a thread like this...I already know it's going to end up in bans and moderations. Everything is subjective as far as what others view as quality. Both giants have games coming. What's GOTY is also up in the air. That also doesn't have any bearings on whose games are better. Sure am glad I have all the consoles.



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Bell_Cranel on 21 June 2015
Aerys said:
Bell_Cranel said:
i really find all the silly and sometimes petty discussions on what a AAA game is nowadays to be quite petty and makes many gamers just look not all that smart. At least to me, a AAA game is and always will be (until digital fully takes over) a retail game. I'm not talking digital games that get retail releases later either. I mean a game that on day one, is on retail. That, at least to me makes a game AAA. If you compare retail game budgets to digital, they are massively bigger. That is what the old definition used to be basically. Nowadays, gamers debate what is AAA based on nothing but sheer opinion which is really lame.

Start counting ALL RETAIL TITLES(non that release as digital first) as AAA

Just had to get that off my chest.....


I agree, for me and many others, even Dragon Quest Heroes is AAA  , it's a retail game, it'll all we should know, too much subjectivity on what is AAA or not, there is no way to know a game's budget so we should consider a retail game as AAA , as simple, except few small retail games like Wii Party of things like that of course

 

 

I think " subjective AAA " is now the new excuse to say " my favorite console has a better year even if the other has more quality retail games because mine are AAA "

I know. It's stupid though. i wish people didn't do it though because all they are doing is moving their agendas. A AAA game is a retail game. Plain and simple. Microsoft has more first party titles coming this fall but I still prefer Sony's lineup though. That's not to say I'm not geting an xbox one though. 

 

I'm a sony fan but i tend to be more objective in stuff like this. 



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LordLichtenstein on 21 June 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
Are you missing some titles?

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/06/21/the-drop-new-playstation-games-for-6232015/


Thanks :D


Things i've changed:


Added - Ender of Fire (PS4)
Added - Attacking Zegata (PS4)
Removed - Riptide GP2 (XBO)


I don't know if I should add Suikoden 3, its a PS2 classic?





Aeolus451 on 21 June 2015
AbbathTheGrim said:
MikeRox said:
Aerys said:


How can you decide if a game is AAA or not without knowing the specific cost of a game ? You can only make a guess.  If for you, a AAA game is just a game with pretty graphics, that means a prettier game will be more AAA than an other ?


Remember when GTA was that "crappy looking" top down game? :D

What are you talking about? GTA has aged well and actually looks very awesomely real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-UGixSMUUY


I got a good laugh from it.



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Turkish on 21 June 2015

cool thread! how did chu make de list?



LordLichtenstein on 21 June 2015
Turkish said:
cool thread! how did chu make de list?


Word :)



BreedinBull on 21 June 2015

micro really needs to spread their releases out throughout the year. this whole preseason smartassery makes no sense. outsell the comp in only one market at that, for 2 (maybe 3) months out of the year? and then the comp not only erases the gap you got during i guess they call it the playoffs but build the lead in all the other months (not even gonna talk global).



Thanks jlmurph!

LordLichtenstein on 21 June 2015

I have updated the OP, BIG TIME!

2014 HAVE BEEN ADDED! 




Aerys on 21 June 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LLBean said:


You are being an hypocrite bruh.There is no such thing as GOTY and that term is based off popularity anyway,not facts or qaulity.Then you complain that Sony will win in this thread for popularity? LOL come on on.

We all know Halo 5 will be the biggest exclusive so far this generation and as usual that is all MS has along with another Forza.They have nothing else and nothing all year.

No one cares about Forza as much as it is hyped and TR will go to PS4 and will be no where any GOTY -even though that term is stupid- and Sony has more variety as they always do.

So if only BIG games count than Halo 5 is the only exclusive on XbnoxOne then and both Forza and TR (timed) are irrelevant by your logic.People kill me trying to discredit the games on the PS4 when if they were on WiiU or Xbox or PC they would be hyped by those fan bases.Those are the facts.

Personally I would play TR,but could careless about Halo or Forza.Most games I want this year are multiplat besides Disgaea,Until Dawn,Tearaway,No Man's Sky and Persona 5.I would take those games over any generic FPS and boring racing game anyday,but that is my taste.


AAA games tend to get the benefit of the doubt traditionally in gaming. There is no hypocrsy in that. Sony even admitted their lineup pre e3 was "sparse".

It doesn't matter which games you prefer or have a bias towards, I just said Halo & Tomb Raider sealed the deal for 2015 for microsoft on the AAA end. There are already enough AAA GOTY contenders in Batman, Fallout 4, The Witcher 3 and more to go around. These are all high quality sequels which are given the benefit of the doubt by default and then we tend to cut them off the list if they dont come up to snuff in the end. Sony's only AAA GOTY contender is Bloodborne. The order sold well enough to probably get a sequel, but when it comes to the critical response they missed the boat completely.

I like Sony games myself, but even Sony knows that their 2016 is going to be better than their 2015, which Microsoft considers 2015 to be one of their biggest years in general (Which when you look at what their offering third to fourth quarter it kind of is). If were talking mid tier games? yeah....Sony won by a mile, but AAA? MS has this plain and simple. 

MS even stated that they arent even finished with what they have to show. Gamecom is where they are having yet another conference for their 2016 lineup. Sony blew their load and threw all their cards on the table, while MS focused their E3 primarily on 2015. MS admitted while they have Quantum Break and Scalebound gameplay to show they still have some newer games to show as well. Seems they have their priorities straight and are investing in AAA's more since Sony said they couldnt make as many as they made last gen.

If you don't think Halo is a GOTY the year contender thats all well and good(but pretty sad when you think of the legacy you're downplaying). Doesn't even matter if you don't like the game the respect for what Halo has done for FPS in the gaming community is still due. I used to hate halo, but even I fell for it all over again once I played the Master Chief Collection and am currently watching the TV show to catch up for Halo 5.

Sony never said anything about not having AAA, they said their " first party " line up was sparse for 2015 and they let 3rd party do the job this year, and that's true, they have almost no first party games this year except bloodborne but they have good 3rd party support so dont twist their words like many did.

 

But nobody is able to say in what way a game with a bigger marketing budget makes it a better game compared to a game with less marketing budget,  it seems people like AAA just for the sake of having something to say without being able to explain in what way it makes a gameplay different or better, so why being AAA marketed game should be important than being a high quality game not marketed, as a gamer ? As a shareholder, yes maybe. Being AAA doesnt make a game better than an other game by default, Ryse and The Order should make you understand that. No one is able to explain in specific terms what makes a " AAA " game better, i wait for someone to tell me, except graphics, as a gamer, why should i care if a game doesnt sell a lot and hasnt a big marketing budget ? I really dont see how that  makes sense for someone who likes quality game, a lot of " mid tier games " are better than most of "AAA " games and thats not really subjectivity when reviewers agree.


You're becoming too much subjective here by saying stuff like " Sony blew their loads and threw all their cards on the table" while we know for facts that they have more studios working on unnannounced projects, we know they have 3 new games to announce in coming months by Sony Bend( a "AAA" game for what we know), Quantic Dream ( same )and Japan Studio ( surely Gravity Rush 2 , would be" AAA" by your definition) and also a game from Level 5, they could announced Gran Turismo soon too based on the leaks . They have still 3 conferences PGW, TGS and PSX, while Microsoft has only one with GC. So you see the reality isnt really as it seems

You think someone who say Halo isnt a Goty contender has no respect for what this game has done for FPS, but what about someone who refuses to see Persona 5 , high quality sequel, as a big goty contender not respecting what this cult RPG  brought to RPG's world ? That is the real downplaying. If you are not into these games or dont know them, it's okay but just know they are not considered as high quality games gamers and reviewers for nothing.

 

PS : And still, i dont understand how TR would count in AAA line up since it's only timed, so it's an artificial and false exclusive, i get that for you it makes it better, but it's just getting the game a bit sooner than others, not a big, deal it's like if we counted TR 2 PS4 version in AAA games in 2016 for PS4, when you will look back in 6 months, the 2015 X1  line up will be much more empty without Tomb Raider timed exclusive



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m