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SWORDF1SH on 19 June 2015
Vasto said:

You cant see anything about VR. Without actually putting on a VR it looks like you are just looking at any regular game trailer. Thats going to be VR's toughest sell. It was impressive the way Microsoft showed off Minecraft to the public.

You got to see what the person was seeing with morpheus with a tv screen by the user. You get a great idea of how the VR is working.

https://youtu.be/BaCxLZDcNBo?t=9m

I want the same for Hololens. I want to know what you see.



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Vasto on 19 June 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
Vasto said:

You cant see anything about VR. Without actually putting on a VR it looks like you are just looking at any regular game trailer. Thats going to be VR's toughest sell. It was impressive the way Microsoft showed off Minecraft to the public.

You got to see what the person was seeing with morpheus with a tv screen by the user. You get a great idea of how the VR is working.

https://youtu.be/BaCxLZDcNBo?t=9m

I want the same for Hololens. I want to know what you see.

Thats still not showing me what VR looks like as if I had on the head set on my self. Thats what VR is going to have to overcome to actually sell it to people.



thx1139 on 19 June 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
tronied said:
They can't show it in first-person as you are not wearing the device. If you were you'd be seeing a first person perspective. To get around this and to see (more or less... emphasis on more here) what that person is seeing, they're using a camera which can see what they're seeing from the camera-man's perspective. The hololens doesn't have the capability to record and transmit that data which is why they use that HUGE camera setup to do all that.

As we've all heard the FOV is limited on the hololens, but that doesn't mean it's not some insanely cool device. Every journalist who has tried it has said it's crazy and awesome (aside from the FOV issue).. I think it's really amazing what they've done and if they can fix the viewing angles or open that out I think they're on to a winner.

BC is dependant on games developers / publishers giving the go ahead. MIcrosoft writes a wrapper, does some testing and then ships it out. That may mean that some games are never supported but it's better having that option than no option at all.

I don't buy it. If they can rig a camera, I'm sure they can tap into the video feed of the Hololens. That's relatively low tech stuff.

And yes BC is a cool addition.

To see what you are seeing is more then tapping into the video feed. You dont need to see what Hololens is projecting. You need to see what the eye is seeing. Hololens projects the minecraft game on top of the coffee table. The eyes see the coffee table with the minecraft game on it.  That what you want to see and to do that you need to collect what is really there and what is being projected and combine that together.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

Landguy on 19 June 2015

So, man never walked on the moon and the earth is flat.... CONFIRMED! Because the OP can't see it himself!

Sorry, if MS didn't let anyone test it out, even Sony execs, then I would think that something is a little fishy. Like others have said, the applications for gaming may be limited to smaller games like Minecraft.



It is near the end of the end....

Teeqoz on 19 June 2015
Vasto said:

You cant see anything about VR. Without actually putting on a VR it looks like you are just looking at any regular game trailer. Thats going to be VR's toughest sell. It was impressive the way Microsoft showed off Minecraft to the public.


Yeah, VR is great, but you don't know that until you actually experience it. It'll be interesting to see how Sony chooses to show it off (let's be honest, they didn't devote much time to it at E3). And yeah, the Hololense demo was quite cool.



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SWORDF1SH on 19 June 2015
Vasto said:
SWORDF1SH said:

You got to see what the person was seeing with morpheus with a tv screen by the user. You get a great idea of how the VR is working.

https://youtu.be/BaCxLZDcNBo?t=9m

I want the same for Hololens. I want to know what you see.

Thats still not showing me what VR looks like as if I had on the head set on my self. Thats what VR is going to have to overcome to actually sell it to people.

But that's the best way to show it off without putting the headset on yourself, why can't they do the same for Hololens?



Vasto on 19 June 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
Vasto said:
SWORDF1SH said:

You got to see what the person was seeing with morpheus with a tv screen by the user. You get a great idea of how the VR is working.

https://youtu.be/BaCxLZDcNBo?t=9m

I want the same for Hololens. I want to know what you see.

Thats still not showing me what VR looks like as if I had on the head set on my self. Thats what VR is going to have to overcome to actually sell it to people.

But that's the best way to show it off without putting the headset on yourself, why can't they do the same for Hololens?

What better way could they show you other then the way the did Minecraft?



Vasto on 19 June 2015

Sony’s Shuhei Yoshida Tries Microsoft’s Halo 5 HoloLens Experience, Calls it “Super Cool”





http://www.dualshockers.com/2015/06/18/sonys-shuhei-yoshida-tries-microsofts-halo-5-hololens-experience-calls-it-super-cool/



MoHasanie on 19 June 2015

Hololens looks really cool. I'm not sure if Morpheus looks better cause I'v never seen anything about it.

As for BC, 100 games is a lot. I'm sure they will keep expanding the library and will focus on bringing the biggest games first.



    

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SWORDF1SH on 19 June 2015
Landguy said:
So, man never walked on the moon and the earth is flat.... CONFIRMED! Because the OP can't see it himself!

Sorry, if MS didn't let anyone test it out, even Sony execs, then I would think that something is a little fishy. Like others have said, the applications for gaming may be limited to smaller games like Minecraft.

What are you talking about? You are taking this way out of context. What you are saying doesn't even make sense. Please explain the bolded?

Augmented reality is nothing new, I have it on my Vita and it works quite well. Hololens in theory is a good idea and I like the idea, but I want to know what the person is seeing like they did with the Morpheus demos. Basically is the headset as good as they are making it look or is it Kinect all over again.

Again here is a link that of Morpheus in action that gives you a good idea of what the person is seeing without putting the heatset on.

https://youtu.be/BaCxLZDcNBo?t=9m