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As I said in the VGC article:
They will never please everyone. No matter what they do, a lot of people are going to be pissed off. That's the nature of the beast.
And I believe there are quite a few things they will change in the game. A lot of things that will make it seem more modern. Whether or not that means a change in the battle system remains to be seen. But I am fairly certain of one thing: there will be changes, both negations and additions, and some of those nostalgia folks will be very vocal about it. Way she goes.



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Gourmet said:
This remake's target audience is people who have not played the game. And since it's on home consoles, it's targeted to gaijins. No way I'd expect something good out of it.

Yeah, because the people who have been asking for it and have been flooding the internet with their wishes for a remake and made FFVII one of the best selling FFs in history and are dead-set in buying the remake day one are the ones that haven't even played it yet.

I bet they want new people to play it as well of course, but alienating the ones who have been asking forthis remake for years is not only stupid but misses the whole aim of making this game a sales success.

I know people can be stupid so the ones behind the game may fuck up and change the remake for the worse. Who knows?

And I also know that there are already people around who have already discarded this remake before it was even announced.



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

Given Square recent output I think fans are in for one hell of a disappointment. If they try to do it in the classic JRPG style of the original it's gonna fall short because they have lost their touch. If they try a modern take, It wouldn't really be Final Fantasy VII. It has the name and a nice CGI trailer. That's it.



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Nomura has never produced a turn based RPG before. He has always been about action games...so to say I'm a little worried on the battle system front is putting it mildly.

Also he mentioned the game will deviate from the original story; that means there's a strong possibility of story elements from Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus and Advent Children to appear in FF7R...ugh.

Crisis Core story elements could work out well if told from a more passive perspective, such as.... 

talking about Angeal and Genesis as examples of lives  ruined by Shinra, but no more, no returns.

The biggest worry  I have is Nomura pushing his Light vs. Darkness crap onto FF7.  He won't stfu with that on anything he conceives.  It's most of what KH is about and Advent Children got the same treatment.

He's awful at presenting relatable issues, even friendship.  Maybe in Eastern countries friendship is a little different, but if Persona is anything to go by Nomura is just a melodramatic mess and not representive of the whole of Japanese culture.



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I'm mostly concerned that they will bro-ify the title. I can already hear it in the voice over. But I'm sure that it makes more sense so it appeals to the modern western gamer.



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Nomura and Kitase are handling this one so i expect Lightning to be included as DLC or at least a cameo.

 



Keep the turn based mechanics, its been so long since anyone has used traditional jrpg elements that it would be refreshing to see them again. Based on the way Square-Enix has been lately they will probably try to "innovate" at every turn only to disappoint and frustrate everyone.



FunFan said:
Given Square recent output I think fans are in for one hell of a disappointment. If they try to do it in the classic JRPG style of the original it's gonna fall short because they have lost their touch. If they try a modern take, It wouldn't really be Final Fantasy VII. It has the name and a nice CGI trailer. That's it.


I keep hearing this argument, but it holds no weight.  The touch is already there and is expected from fans.  There's no need to actually change the battle system to an action game.  If you're referring to the fixed camera approach, that's still not an issue to worry about, or if they do give full control of the camera they can still keep with the original battle system anyways.  They can add in more exploration with a fully controllable camera.  

They can add extra abilities in the game, extra quests, enemies, bosses, harder difficulty levels for those so inclined, new areas opened up even as side stories to tie in to other things not apart of the main story.  It's not like that is not an option to freshen up the game and make it more lively to both new and older fans. 

There's lots of stuff they can do around the core design of the game and story, yet not change the vision of the original and still live up to the hype.

Will some people be left out if they stick to the core design?  Sure, most likely people that weren't interested to begin, but I wouldn't underestimate the polish of an AAA looking game to bring in people that weren't turn based JRPG fans before.  I'm seeing comments on youtube from gamers that never played FF7 before interested in the game.  Some of those gamers won't like it and some of them will, same as always.  

*But I'm betting a large majority of people wanting to buy this game have already played the original.*



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LMU Uncle Alfred said:

I keep hearing this argument, but it holds no weight.  The touch is already there and is expected from fans.  There's no need to actually change the battle system to an action game.  If you're referring to the fixed camera approach, that's still not an issue to worry about, or if they do give full control of the camera they can still keep with the original battle system anyways.  They can add in more exploration with a fully controllable camera.  

They can add extra abilities in the game, extra quests, enemies, bosses, harder difficulty levels for those so inclined, new areas opened up even as side stories to tie in to other things not apart of the main story.  It's not like that is not an option to freshen up the game and make it more lively to both new and older fans. 

There's lots of stuff they can do around the core design of the game and story, yet not change the vision of the original and still live up to the hype.

Will some people be left out if they stick to the core design?  Sure, most likely people that weren't interested to begin, but I wouldn't underestimate the polish of an AAA looking game to bring in people that weren't turn based JRPG fans before.  I'm seeing comments on youtube from gamers that never played FF7 before interested in the game.  Some of those gamers won't like it and some of them will, same as always.  

*But I'm betting a large majority of people wanting to buy this game have already played the original.*


Are you implying that Square can put their hands on the game without breaking everything? That's some faith you have there kiddo.  But we don't really know what they are doing. We might get lucky and  have them get lazy, simply remaking the graphics. That way they wont spoil the original.



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"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)