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I don't think that it will be a cross gen title. Unless NX and Wii U share the same architecture, it will be a massive undertaking to port Zelda U to NX. The reason why the port worked well on Wii was because Wii was basically a souped up GCN.



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Legend of Zelda will be released on the NX and WiiU mark my words!



Sorry but that doesn't have sense, every game could be better on next hardware, so whats the point!?

You have some people who buys Nintendo console in the first place for Zelda games, so in that case they buy Wii U for no reason!?

But I think there is no chance that Zelda wont come on Wii U.

Also even if Zelda will be on NX, it will probably be simple port not remaster or better version.



bigtakilla said:
UncleScrooge said:

Yes, I think that would be the better alternative. I expect it to be a cross-gen title, by the way. Wii U owners will get their Zelda game but NX owners will get a better version in 1080p at 60fps and maybe some other added stuff. I'm not saying any of these alternatives is great but Nintendo needs to keep their home console business alive. They can't release Wii U games in 2017 with the console basically being dead. That would be a huge money sink.

I feel your pain, though! 

With big releases comes big swells in console sales. The only thing that held the Wii U back this gen from doing respectable numbers is the fact there were so many game droughts. When Zelda Wii U releases, we can expect another home console sales swell.

As for whether the Wii U is a money sink hole, I think the fact that their fiscal year financial report was in the green means that they can still support the Wii U just fine until 2017. I think it would be a good idea to do this as well being that every Wii U and game sold, Nintendo makes a profit. The worst thing they can do is rush a new console out instead of making sure whatever this new consoles "thing" is, it can be fully realized. They should have had a game blowout at E3 this year to spark some interest again, showing their hand for 2016 but that is in the past.

What they do need to do is make sure their home console is stupidly easy to port the definitive versions of third party games to the console. They need to make sure that Monolith Soft and EAD whatever (the one that's making the Mario NX game) have games ready to launch when the console releases. Being that Retro said making a Metroid game now would be ready when NX launches is an insight to what is actually happening and why we haven't heard what their game is (though I would be fine with learning it's Metroid Wii U) that they have been working on since Tropical Freeze. 

And hell, a great starting place for the new Nintendo console would be to launch at $350 to keep the price similar to the PS4 while offering a "better experience".

These things would help out FAR more than just announcing a cross gen title of LoZ. I think some people are placing far to much importance on the series like it can carry a new console. 

 

I don't place much importance into it, actually. I don't think Zelda can carry a console. I don't even think the series is as significant of a release as it was in the early to late 90s. Zelda ist just one of many games on the market. I merely see it as one of many hints that Nintendo's next console will be out in 2016 and I totally support this decision. No matter what you say, Nintendo can't survive without a home console business and in early 2017 there won't be any home console business left without a new system. That's what their internal research says, as well. Otherwise they'd launch the next handheld first, as they always did. What I think is that people place too much importance on "Nintendo fans". Whenever Nintendo tries to please its hardcore fans, it fails spectacularly in the market. Whenever Nintendo doesn't try to please an existing fanbase its sales skyrocket. That's the picture I see and you may disagree with it.

I doubt they can support the Wii U in 2017: 3DS sales numbers will go down as well and they cut costs as much as they could already. I'm sure that's what their internal projections show, as well. 

The Wii U is a flawed system: the Gamepad never worked and never enticed consumers, the flash storage is extremely slow, third parties never liked the architecture and Nintendos first party studios struggled from the beginning with game development on the system. "Kill your darlings" is probably the most important piece of advice I've heard in my life: If something doesn't work and you've really tried to make it work, kill it. That's what Nintendo is doing with the Wii U (they really tried, but they couldn't integrate the gamepad in a way that improved the games) and I support their decision. But I can totally see where you're coming from. 

And I agree about the third parties part and Mario / Metroid. Again, I can totally see your point. I think they are stuck between a rock and a hard place right now. 



UncleScrooge said:
bigtakilla said:

With big releases comes big swells in console sales. The only thing that held the Wii U back this gen from doing respectable numbers is the fact there were so many game droughts. When Zelda Wii U releases, we can expect another home console sales swell.

As for whether the Wii U is a money sink hole, I think the fact that their fiscal year financial report was in the green means that they can still support the Wii U just fine until 2017. I think it would be a good idea to do this as well being that every Wii U and game sold, Nintendo makes a profit. The worst thing they can do is rush a new console out instead of making sure whatever this new consoles "thing" is, it can be fully realized. They should have had a game blowout at E3 this year to spark some interest again, showing their hand for 2016 but that is in the past.

What they do need to do is make sure their home console is stupidly easy to port the definitive versions of third party games to the console. They need to make sure that Monolith Soft and EAD whatever (the one that's making the Mario NX game) have games ready to launch when the console releases. Being that Retro said making a Metroid game now would be ready when NX launches is an insight to what is actually happening and why we haven't heard what their game is (though I would be fine with learning it's Metroid Wii U) that they have been working on since Tropical Freeze. 

And hell, a great starting place for the new Nintendo console would be to launch at $350 to keep the price similar to the PS4 while offering a "better experience".

These things would help out FAR more than just announcing a cross gen title of LoZ. I think some people are placing far to much importance on the series like it can carry a new console. 

 

I don't place much importance into it, actually. I don't think Zelda can carry a console. I don't even think the series is as significant of a release as it was in the early to late 90s. Zelda ist just one of many games on the market. I merely see it as one of many hints that Nintendo's next console will be out in 2016 and I totally support this decision. No matter what you say, Nintendo can't survive without a home console business and in early 2017 there won't be any home console business left without a new system. That's what their internal research says, as well. Otherwise they'd launch the next handheld first, as they always did. What I think is that people place too much importance on "Nintendo fans". Whenever Nintendo tries to please its hardcore fans, it fails spectacularly in the market. Whenever Nintendo doesn't try to please an existing fanbase its sales skyrocket. That's the picture I see and you may disagree with it.

I doubt they can support the Wii U in 2017: 3DS sales numbers will go down as well and they cut costs as much as they could already. I'm sure that's what their internal projections show, as well. 

The Wii U is a flawed system: the Gamepad never worked and never enticed consumers, the flash storage is extremely slow, third parties never liked the architecture and Nintendos first party studios struggled from the beginning with game development on the system. "Kill your darlings" is probably the most important piece of advice I've heard in my life: If something doesn't work and you've really tried to make it work, kill it. That's what Nintendo is doing with the Wii U (they really tried, but they couldn't integrate the gamepad in a way that improved the games) and I support their decision. But I can totally see where you're coming from. 

And I agree about the third parties part and Mario / Metroid. Again, I can totally see your point. I think they are stuck between a rock and a hard place right now. 

 

I agree, Nintendo needs a home console business. But they can wait until winter 2017 to give us the new system. 

As I said, their finances are in the green. If they were hurting that badly for cash they would push out Zelda U and make a quick buck. Skylanders with Amiibo is coming out, do you not believe Nintendo is going to see some crazy amounts of money real soon? I don't like Skylanders, but I would be insane to not realize it's going to be an insanely profitable venture. I mean stupid profitable. 

Also, I agree with everything but the gamepad never working, although I can even agree it never enticed customers. If someone was expecting something more than a hud and a quick inventory menu then they were going to be let down. The fact that it also offered off tv play and gyroscope controls implemented fairly well into games are an actual pleasant surprise for me. I guess the thing with the gamepad was, what were people expecting?

And while I agree they  are between a rock and a hardplace, I still believe the worst thing they can do is take the one thing a lot of people probably bought the console for (LoZ) and make it a cross gen game. Not that I doubt they would do something stupid like that, but it's going to piss most of their 10 million fans off, and that is an increadibly stupid thing to do. Even if they only piss off around 5 million, that would be a massive mistake. This comes up a lot but look at Sega. They tried to release a console first as well as constantly try to release periferals to make their current systems the strongest system on the market. Genesis was stronger than the NES, then Nintendo dropped the Snes. Sega answered with Sega CD and then 32X (and neither of these add ons were supported nearly enough). Then Sega released the Saturn because of the more powerful N64, and roughly 4 years later with the Dreamcast to half gen it like what we are seeing Nintnedo do. Fortunately for Nintendo Amiibo and 3DS are extremely profitable, and the Wii U (though selling bad) is also right now profitable. Sometimes you just got to let things ride. Kneejerking a reaction to bad sales isn't going to help Nintendo. 



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UncleScrooge said:
I would prefer it on NX as a launch title.

The Wii U is selling bad and Nintendo can't keep releasing high budget games for it: Software has a hard time recouping dev costs already, how are they supposed to make money with a high budget, open world Zelda game that only sells 1-2m units on the on-life-support Wii U in late 2016? I'm sure Nintendo wants you guys to have your Wii U Zelda game but they can't continue to burn money on the console. The Wii U is a failed concept with an expensive controller their first party developers are still struggling to integrate into their games 3 years after the release of the console. They need to move on and release a new console.

Why on earth would Zelda sell that low. Even on crappy system sales of Wii U. Smash sold excellent. So did MK8. Zelda on Wii U would sell its normal 4 million easily. Even Skyward Sword being bashed to hell. And Wii dead. It sold that much. Unless somehow Zelda U has some huge change that is universally panned. Like hire the voices from the Zelda CDI games. Or pull a Metroid OM.



archer9234 said:
UncleScrooge said:
I would prefer it on NX as a launch title.

The Wii U is selling bad and Nintendo can't keep releasing high budget games for it: Software has a hard time recouping dev costs already, how are they supposed to make money with a high budget, open world Zelda game that only sells 1-2m units on the on-life-support Wii U in late 2016? I'm sure Nintendo wants you guys to have your Wii U Zelda game but they can't continue to burn money on the console. The Wii U is a failed concept with an expensive controller their first party developers are still struggling to integrate into their games 3 years after the release of the console. They need to move on and release a new console.

Why on earth would Zelda sell that low. Even on crappy system sales of Wii U. Smash sold excellent. So did MK8. Zelda on Wii U would sell its normal 4 million easily. Even Skyward Sword being bashed to hell. And Wii dead. It sold that much. Unless somehow Zelda U has some huge change that is universally panned. Like hire the voices from the Zelda CDI games. Or pull a Metroid OM.

I would actually be intrigued so much, it would actually make me more interested. Like the seeing a train wreck into a bus full of convicts that had a bomb on it that blew up if the bus goes under 50mph right next to a fire works store.

I know I am in the minority. 



If it's going to come out in fall 2016 either way I don't have an issue with it.

I'm buying the NX no matter what, so if being on NX gives me a better version of this game ... then why wouldn't I want that.



Soundwave said:
If it's going to come out in fall 2016 either way I don't have an issue with it.

I'm buying the NX no matter what, so if being on NX gives me a better version of this game ... then why wouldn't I want that.

5 words, "Zelda U was delayed again". The ends wouldn't justify the means, and it would pretty much signify Nintendo shitting all over their current install base.



kljesta64 said:
I dont really care as long as the console doesnt come out before 2018

GameCube came 5 years after 64, and Wii came 5 years after GameCube. Why would a console doing worse than all of these go that long witout a successor?



Can't wait for The Zelder Scrolls 3: Breath of The Wild Hunt!