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ctk495 said:


Thank you for accepting "the Wii u is the worst console of all time" when actually considering the boundaries i created it and explained it a million times(Sega, Sony, Nintendo and Xbox.) Maybe next time you don't need to throw tantrums by calling me 'kiddo' or keep on bringing your 'goal post' metaphor. (I got it once)You pretty much hide behind the title and were unable to move beyond it even if I clarified it tons of times. Instead, you kept on complaing about the same thing over and over again and then trying to make fun of me based on ignoring what I said. 

@cannonballZ

What are you talking about?Again you are putting words in my mouth that i didn't say. Did I "thrash"  the Wii U, did i go and say "the Wii U sucks" "I hate the Wii U!" If you read the OP I said I wanted to be "realistic and objective" in regards to judging the Wii U. I don't see any evidence you have provide at all  besides your personal opinion "Mario Kart 8 is arguably the best...etc"or "X games are all wonderful." According to who? To yourself. While I did say that the was only  0.1 difference between MKDD and MK8 according to metacritic. I don't know if i should take you and San Andreas X seriously if you only rely on Ad Hominen attacks to try to discredit myself and my thread.

Ummm, I actually haven't accepted those boundaries. You created those boundaries after the fact. Nothing in your title OR your OP clarified anything of the sort. The way it looks to everyone here, you covered your tracks after multiple users called you out.

Words have meaning. "ALL TIME" = the entire history of video gaming. Your basic argument is deeply flawed.

The "kiddo" part was because you apparently think most video game history isn't important because you personally weren't alive to see it. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. A large proportion of the VGC userbase has a longer memory and longer experience with video games than you do, myself included.  You discredited your own thread, which was either badly thought out or a blatant troll thread.  Better luck next time.



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It depends on the user.

In my current situtation the Wii U is a decent console. I mainly play games on my PC and my Wii U compliments it perfectly. For me it has a much better library of games than the ps4/xb1 does because I can already play 99% of the ps4/xb1 games that I want to on my PC. The fact that it doesn't have any third party support is meaningless to me. 

On the other hand I can't even imagine only having a Wii U for my gaming needs. I would estimate that I've gotten about 200 hours of gameplay from my Wii U a year. Certainly not enough content for it to be my only gaming device. The library is just too limited. Nowadays I only use it when friends come over.

For someone who doesn't plan on owning multiple consoles or a gaming PC, I would agree that the Wii U is the worst choice for this gen. But it is a great compliment to a PC/PS4/XB1 for those that plan on buying multiple devices.



ctk495 said:

 You are also missing the part of the title where I said "Is" and "?" meaning that i was asking a question for others to debate. I also compared it to other nintendo consoles to see how it stacked up. Why should you take me seriously? Does a film critic needs to make a film in order to review it? Do I need to play every single Wii U game in order to have an opinion on them? I am basing myself on the articles and information I read from professional reviewers.

@mysteryman

How wasn't I realistic and objective? I listened to what everyone was saying and I do believe they are correct that the Jaguar or CD-I are worst than the Wii U. What I was criticizing was that I thought that within the boundaries I established consoles created by Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and Sega the Wii U was the worst. Yet, either people agreed with me or they simply decided not to defend their case.

PS(Off-topic): I hope you get a less realistic looking Mario avatar. It's difficult to look at. 

Are you serious? I missed the "is" and "?" in the title? Do I seem like the kind of idiot that reads a title and responds only to that? You seem to be forgetting what you wrote in your original post, not just your title. 

People responded to that and you moved the goal post, AKA only the "big 4". 

Then people responded to that and you moved the goal posts again, AKA  only the consoles you have experience with. 

Yet, you say you can make an educated or informative decision to call a console the worst of all time under these new boundaries, based solely on being able to look online and read about the library and what others thought of them. Not because you own the console.

The irony in it all. Why exclude so many consoles and redefine the boundaries if you can come to the same informative conclusion by researching them online? 



Are you kidding me? Yeah there are a lot worse consoles than the WiiU. I mean if we're talking any console and not just mainstream. You could walk into a CVS and find something. But in terms of mainstream, The pippin, the Saturn (sorry my sega brothers), the Atari Jaguar, the Phillips CDi... I think i rest my case.



Phillips CD-i is probably one of the worst.



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Has anyone here ever sucked a fart out of a dead seagull?



#1 Amb-ass-ador

Poli_Games said:
The pippin


Can't believe I forgot about the Pippin.

I would say it would be

 

Pippin vs CD-i

the ultimate battle



SanAndreasX said:
ctk495 said:


Thank you for accepting "the Wii u is the worst console of all time" when actually considering the boundaries i created it and explained it a million times(Sega, Sony, Nintendo and Xbox.) Maybe next time you don't need to throw tantrums by calling me 'kiddo' or keep on bringing your 'goal post' metaphor. (I got it once)You pretty much hide behind the title and were unable to move beyond it even if I clarified it tons of times. Instead, you kept on complaing about the same thing over and over again and then trying to make fun of me based on ignoring what I said. 

@cannonballZ

What are you talking about?Again you are putting words in my mouth that i didn't say. Did I "thrash"  the Wii U, did i go and say "the Wii U sucks" "I hate the Wii U!" If you read the OP I said I wanted to be "realistic and objective" in regards to judging the Wii U. I don't see any evidence you have provide at all  besides your personal opinion "Mario Kart 8 is arguably the best...etc"or "X games are all wonderful." According to who? To yourself. While I did say that the was only  0.1 difference between MKDD and MK8 according to metacritic. I don't know if i should take you and San Andreas X seriously if you only rely on Ad Hominen attacks to try to discredit myself and my thread.

Ummm, I actually haven't accepted those boundaries. You created those boundaries after the fact. Nothing in your title OR your OP clarified anything of the sort. The way it looks to everyone here, you covered your tracks after multiple users called you out.

Words have meaning. "ALL TIME" = the entire history of video gaming. Your basic argument is deeply flawed.

The "kiddo" part was because you apparently think most video game history isn't important because you personally weren't alive to see it. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. A large proportion of the VGC userbase has a longer memory and longer experience with video games than you do, myself included.  You discredited your own thread, which was either badly thought out or a blatant troll thread.  Better luck next time.

You haven't accepted them? I am quoating you "So sure, the Wii U is the worst console of "all time"..." and "Nintendo needs to change their strategy. There was no denial of that on my part." Your words not mine. You have accepted that the Wii U is 1) The worst console made within the big 4 2) They need to change their strategy.  So you  need to stop repetiting yourself and  move on. Instead, you keep on hiding behind a red herring by bringing you 'goal post' thing over and over and since you can't accomplish anything your rely on personal attacks "blantant troll tread." 

@canonballz

When did I say that "only consoles which I have experience with"? Again you are saying things I never said. Also you haven't read my response when I mentioned that it is irrelevant if I own the console or not.And then I made an analogy about it. You like San Andreas X don't respond to my replies. Instead, you stick with your  same position and repeat it. And then rely on insults or strong language "do I look like the kind of idiot." 


@everyone

I am clarifying my OP. 



ctk495 said:

You haven't accepted them? I am quoating you "So sure, the Wii U is the worst console of "all time"..." and "Nintendo needs to change their strategy. There was no denial of that on my part." Your words not mine. You have accepted that the Wii U is 1) The worst console made within the big 4 2) They need to change their strategy.  So you  need to stop repetiting yourself and  move on. Instead, you keep on hiding behind a red herring by bringing you 'goal post' thing over and over and since you can't accomplish anything your rely on personal attacks "blantant troll tread." 

@canonballz

When did I say that "only consoles which I have experience with"? Again you are saying things I never said. Also you haven't read my response when I mentioned that it is irrelevant if I own the console or not.And then I made an analogy about it. You like San Andreas X don't respond to my replies. Instead, you stick with your  same position and repeat it. And then rely on insults or strong language "do I look like the kind of idiot." 


@everyone

I am clarifying my OP. 


You point out insults, yet you threw some as well. I responded to the OP and you came it me with : "you musta forgot the is and the ? in the title." and the  "limitied perspective" comment came from you too.  Who responds to just the title?  You haven't replied directly to me either, you keep throwing comments in other peoples replies. You haven't answered my questions, 

Why did exlcude Virtual Boy and why define the boundaries to exclude so many other consoles if you feel you can come to a decicive and informed conclusion by researching them online? Is it because, dare I say, "it makes you uncomfortable"?

I'm not the one repeating myself at all, just check my posts. You keep gong around in a circle and it's really not helping you bring whatever point it is you wanted to make. You keep backpeddling as well. Your title wasn't thrown out there like you were just asking, your OP proved that. You went on to explain why you thought it was eligible to be the worst console of all time. Now you're going to pretend that wasn't what you were implying? 

 



Virtual Boy is still within those boundaries, which by the way, would still not make Wii U the worst console of all time.

Did you think that through before you clarified? Everything Sega, Nintendo, Sony and MS have made fall into that category.

Sega Saturn? I still have mine tucked away in a storage box.That console had way less support and very few games that made that purchase worthy.

Sega 32x or Sega CD? They were add ons but they were not that good at all. I was fairly disappointed when I bought that.

The point is, Wii U is nowhere in that realm and no matter how you word it or try keep repeating it to yourself, it's not going to fall into the worst of all category unless you exclude a bunch of other consoles to fit your agenda.

Saying Virtual Boy wasn't taken seriously isn't a plausible answer either. It wasn't taken seriously because it seriously sucked. It is the ONLY Nintendo console that I still have from back in the day that will not turn on or work properly when it does. By far the worst hardware that Nintendo ever put out.

And it wasn't an add on or peripheral, it was it's own platform. Wii U's library is still expanding, and will have a vastly superior Library to Gamecube. In my opinion, it already does.