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ctk495 said:
SanAndreasX said:
ctk495 said:

Did I say that my title is the summarization of my entire post? Also you couldn't be more wrong I own a Gamecube and I like it alot. Again, where did I say that the GCN is the worst? I was comparing the Wii U with other consoles by Nintendo to show how it stacked up. I was actually defending the Gamecube when someone was attaking it.

@SanAndreasX

We'll myself and other gamers have mostly been gaming since PSOne days. I can only recall the PSone and the N64-I bet alot of kids think the same way. When people think console wars they think Nintedo vs Sega-that is why Sega is included. Look at the front page of Vgchartz do you see Ouya's name on it? No you see PS4, Xbox one and Wii U. When I was making my title I thought of two distictions big manufacters and contemporary consoles. Within that set I think that the Wii U is the worst console. 

 

Well, kiddo, a lot of the VGChartz userbase was gaming back when Nintendo was still making RadarScope and Sega was a non-entity. You can't simply discount half of video game history just because you weren't alive to see it. "All time" for video games goes back about 64 years. There was a pretty lively gaming scene going on before Super Mario Bros. came out in 1985.  Video games have a history that dates back to at least 1951, but if you want to discount Ralph Baer's early rudimentary work on gaming, we can say that gaming as we know it started in 1971-72. To discount half the history of gaming just because you can't see beyond your own nose is incredibly short-sighted, and it's why so many people in here are laughing at the thread.

And as for those "non-serious" consoles, Philips (which actually made one of the first ever home consoles, the Odyssey, back in the mid-70s), Panasonic, Goldstar, and Commodore didn't invest millions in console R&D because they had money that they had to burn. 3DO probably had more money invested in its development than any console Sega ever made, whatever the final outcome was.

Wii U is nowhere near the worst console of "all time". Now if you want to say it's the worst console Nintendo ever made, that's a valid point of debate, but even that is largely a matter of opinion, and that's if you discount the Virtual Boy.

So sure, the Wii U is the worst console of "all time"... once you disqualify all of the video game consoles that were actually worse than the Wii U on one basis or another. But at this point, you're not just moving the goalposts, you're running around the field carrying them on your back and challenging everybody else in this thread to a game of tag.


Thank you for accepting "the Wii u is the worst console of all time" when actually considering the boundaries i created it and explained it a million times(Sega, Sony, Nintendo and Xbox.) Maybe next time you don't need to throw tantrums by calling me 'kiddo' or keep on bringing your 'goal post' metaphor. (I got it once)You pretty much hide behind the title and were unable to move beyond it even if I clarified it tons of times. Instead, you kept on complaing about the same thing over and over again and then trying to make fun of me based on ignoring what I said. 

@cannonballZ

What are you talking about?Again you are putting words in my mouth that i didn't say. Did I "thrash"  the Wii U, did i go and say "the Wii U sucks" "I hate the Wii U!" If you read the OP I said I wanted to be "realistic and objective" in regards to judging the Wii U. I don't see any evidence you have provide at all  besides your personal opinion "Mario Kart 8 is arguably the best...etc"or "X games are all wonderful." According to who? To yourself. While I did say that the was only  0.1 difference between MKDD and MK8 according to metacritic. I don't know if i should take you and San Andreas X seriously if you only rely on Ad Hominen attacks to try to discredit myself and my thread.

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ctk495 said:


Thank you for accepting "the Wii u is the worst console of all time" when actually considering the boundaries i created it and explained it a million times(Sega, Sony, Nintendo and Xbox.) Maybe next time you don't need to throw tantrums by calling me 'kiddo' or keep on bringing your 'goal post' metaphor. (I got it once)You pretty much hide behind the title and were unable to move beyond it even if I clarified it tons of times. Instead, you kept on complaing about the same thing over and over again and then trying to make fun of me based on ignoring what I said. 

@cannonballZ

What are you talking about?Again you are putting words in my mouth that i didn't say. Did I "thrash"  the Wii U, did i go and say "the Wii U sucks" "I hate the Wii U!" If you read the OP I said I wanted to be "realistic and objective" in regards to judging the Wii U. I don't see any evidence you have provide at all  besides your personal opinion "Mario Kart 8 is arguably the best...etc"or "X games are all wonderful." According to who? To yourself. While I did say that the was only  0.1 difference between MKDD and MK8 according to metacritic. I don't know if i should take you and San Andreas X seriously if you only rely on Ad Hominen attacks to try to discredit myself and my thread.

Calling Wii U the worst console of all time, is indeed trashing the console. I didn't put those words into your mouth, their in your title. In you OP, you expressed why you thought it was the worst console, did you not? I didn't put any of that in your mouth sir. 

Edit: Again, you don't even own the console, why should we take your opinion seriously? 



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cannonballZ said:
ctk495 said:


Thank you for accepting "the Wii u is the worst console of all time" when actually considering the boundaries i created it and explained it a million times(Sega, Sony, Nintendo and Xbox.) Maybe next time you don't need to throw tantrums by calling me 'kiddo' or keep on bringing your 'goal post' metaphor. (I got it once)You pretty much hide behind the title and were unable to move beyond it even if I clarified it tons of times. Instead, you kept on complaing about the same thing over and over again and then trying to make fun of me based on ignoring what I said. 

@cannonballZ

What are you talking about?Again you are putting words in my mouth that i didn't say. Did I "thrash"  the Wii U, did i go and say "the Wii U sucks" "I hate the Wii U!" If you read the OP I said I wanted to be "realistic and objective" in regards to judging the Wii U. I don't see any evidence you have provide at all  besides your personal opinion "Mario Kart 8 is arguably the best...etc"or "X games are all wonderful." According to who? To yourself. While I did say that the was only  0.1 difference between MKDD and MK8 according to metacritic. I don't know if i should take you and San Andreas X seriously if you only rely on Ad Hominen attacks to try to discredit myself and my thread.

Calling Wii U the worst console of all time, is indeed trashing the console. I didn't put those words into your mouth, their in your title. In you OP, you expressed why you thought it was the worst console, did you not? I didn't put any of that in your mouth sir. 

Edit: Again, you don't even own the console, why should we take your opinion seriously? 

 

 You are also missing the part of the title where I said "Is" and "?" meaning that i was asking a question for others to debate. I also compared it to other nintendo consoles to see how it stacked up. Why should you take me seriously? Does a film critic needs to make a film in order to review it? Do I need to play every single Wii U game in order to have an opinion on them? I am basing myself on the articles and information I read from professional reviewers.

@mysteryman

How wasn't I realistic and objective? I listened to what everyone was saying and I do believe they are correct that the Jaguar or CD-I are worst than the Wii U. What I was criticizing was that I thought that within the boundaries I established consoles created by Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and Sega the Wii U was the worst. Yet, either people agreed with me or they simply decided not to defend their case.

PS(Off-topic): I hope you get a less realistic looking Mario avatar. It's difficult to look at. 



ctk495 said:


Thank you for accepting "the Wii u is the worst console of all time" when actually considering the boundaries i created it and explained it a million times(Sega, Sony, Nintendo and Xbox.) Maybe next time you don't need to throw tantrums by calling me 'kiddo' or keep on bringing your 'goal post' metaphor. (I got it once)You pretty much hide behind the title and were unable to move beyond it even if I clarified it tons of times. Instead, you kept on complaing about the same thing over and over again and then trying to make fun of me based on ignoring what I said. 

@cannonballZ

What are you talking about?Again you are putting words in my mouth that i didn't say. Did I "thrash"  the Wii U, did i go and say "the Wii U sucks" "I hate the Wii U!" If you read the OP I said I wanted to be "realistic and objective" in regards to judging the Wii U. I don't see any evidence you have provide at all  besides your personal opinion "Mario Kart 8 is arguably the best...etc"or "X games are all wonderful." According to who? To yourself. While I did say that the was only  0.1 difference between MKDD and MK8 according to metacritic. I don't know if i should take you and San Andreas X seriously if you only rely on Ad Hominen attacks to try to discredit myself and my thread.

Ummm, I actually haven't accepted those boundaries. You created those boundaries after the fact. Nothing in your title OR your OP clarified anything of the sort. The way it looks to everyone here, you covered your tracks after multiple users called you out.

Words have meaning. "ALL TIME" = the entire history of video gaming. Your basic argument is deeply flawed.

The "kiddo" part was because you apparently think most video game history isn't important because you personally weren't alive to see it. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. A large proportion of the VGC userbase has a longer memory and longer experience with video games than you do, myself included.  You discredited your own thread, which was either badly thought out or a blatant troll thread.  Better luck next time.



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It depends on the user.

In my current situtation the Wii U is a decent console. I mainly play games on my PC and my Wii U compliments it perfectly. For me it has a much better library of games than the ps4/xb1 does because I can already play 99% of the ps4/xb1 games that I want to on my PC. The fact that it doesn't have any third party support is meaningless to me. 

On the other hand I can't even imagine only having a Wii U for my gaming needs. I would estimate that I've gotten about 200 hours of gameplay from my Wii U a year. Certainly not enough content for it to be my only gaming device. The library is just too limited. Nowadays I only use it when friends come over.

For someone who doesn't plan on owning multiple consoles or a gaming PC, I would agree that the Wii U is the worst choice for this gen. But it is a great compliment to a PC/PS4/XB1 for those that plan on buying multiple devices.



ctk495 said:

 You are also missing the part of the title where I said "Is" and "?" meaning that i was asking a question for others to debate. I also compared it to other nintendo consoles to see how it stacked up. Why should you take me seriously? Does a film critic needs to make a film in order to review it? Do I need to play every single Wii U game in order to have an opinion on them? I am basing myself on the articles and information I read from professional reviewers.

@mysteryman

How wasn't I realistic and objective? I listened to what everyone was saying and I do believe they are correct that the Jaguar or CD-I are worst than the Wii U. What I was criticizing was that I thought that within the boundaries I established consoles created by Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo and Sega the Wii U was the worst. Yet, either people agreed with me or they simply decided not to defend their case.

PS(Off-topic): I hope you get a less realistic looking Mario avatar. It's difficult to look at. 

Are you serious? I missed the "is" and "?" in the title? Do I seem like the kind of idiot that reads a title and responds only to that? You seem to be forgetting what you wrote in your original post, not just your title. 

People responded to that and you moved the goal post, AKA only the "big 4". 

Then people responded to that and you moved the goal posts again, AKA  only the consoles you have experience with. 

Yet, you say you can make an educated or informative decision to call a console the worst of all time under these new boundaries, based solely on being able to look online and read about the library and what others thought of them. Not because you own the console.

The irony in it all. Why exclude so many consoles and redefine the boundaries if you can come to the same informative conclusion by researching them online? 



Are you kidding me? Yeah there are a lot worse consoles than the WiiU. I mean if we're talking any console and not just mainstream. You could walk into a CVS and find something. But in terms of mainstream, The pippin, the Saturn (sorry my sega brothers), the Atari Jaguar, the Phillips CDi... I think i rest my case.



Phillips CD-i is probably one of the worst.



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