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Why I'm not happy about the Shenmue III Kickstarter

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StuOhQ said:

I have to agree with the OP on this one. If it weren't pushed by Sony (and likely being partially funded by Sony), I wouldn't see a problem with it. This opens the gate to Nintendo kickstarting "F-Zero", and Microsoft kickstarting "Perfect Dark".

I know you presented this as if it was a bad thing, but that actually got me excited. It can mean that many of the games we have been asking for large companies to give a second chance, might actually get said second chances. Imagine of Nintendo kickstarted Mother home-console for example. We'd have a new Mother game based on how strong of a fanbase this title has. Or what if some large publishers like Square-Enix kickstarted Dragon Quest VII and V III (3DS) localizations? We'd actually get the localizations. I'm willing to take the risk to be honest. 



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sc94597 said:
StuOhQ said:

I have to agree with the OP on this one. If it weren't pushed by Sony (and likely being partially funded by Sony), I wouldn't see a problem with it. This opens the gate to Nintendo kickstarting "F-Zero", and Microsoft kickstarting "Perfect Dark".

I know you presented this as if it was a bad thing, but that actually got me excited. It can mean that many of the games we have been asking for large companies to give a second chance, might actually get said second chances. Imagine of Nintendo kickstarted Mother home-console for example. We'd have a new Mother game based on how strong of a fanbase this title has. Or what if some large publishers like Square-Enix kickstarted Dragon Quest VII and V III (3DS) localizations? We'd actually get the localizations. I'm willing to take the risk to be honest. 

Yeah.....thats not good. Look at duke nukem forever....



Duke Nukem was in development hell finished by a meh developer.

Comparing apples to oranges will get you nowhere.

This was a successful publicity stunt.



Multishanks said:
sc94597 said:
StuOhQ said:

I have to agree with the OP on this one. If it weren't pushed by Sony (and likely being partially funded by Sony), I wouldn't see a problem with it. This opens the gate to Nintendo kickstarting "F-Zero", and Microsoft kickstarting "Perfect Dark".

I know you presented this as if it was a bad thing, but that actually got me excited. It can mean that many of the games we have been asking for large companies to give a second chance, might actually get said second chances. Imagine of Nintendo kickstarted Mother home-console for example. We'd have a new Mother game based on how strong of a fanbase this title has. Or what if some large publishers like Square-Enix kickstarted Dragon Quest VII and V III (3DS) localizations? We'd actually get the localizations. I'm willing to take the risk to be honest. 

Yeah.....thats not good. Look at duke nukem forever....


And you've had to pay full retail for the game before you've any idea what the end quality is going to be like. It's genius for games publishers as its guaranteed pre launch sales.

As I said earlier, I backed Bloodstained. I think it's a bit shady that deep silver then came in once it was funded. However if it was Konami, I'd have been wanting my money back given they had refused funding for all these years.

 

I'm looking forward to Activision's kickstarter for Call of Duty because they're just not sure the audience is there anymore. And EA doing one for FIFA to prove people want the licensed squads in their games...



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I don't see it as a problem, it's a way of allowing people to achieve something that may have never happened. Obviously, there is great interest in Shenmue III but that was not so obvious to Sony or apparently Sega till now. We should be happy to get Shenmue III regardless of how it happened, I just hope Yu Suzuki and his team can deliver. No pressure



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Just be happy its being made



Ruler said:
Goddbless said:
I agree this is a dangerous trend. I think because it is a game like Shenmue that so many have been asking for it is viewed differently right now. This trend will not only continue but Sony may have set the precedent by announcing it at E3. Next years E3 should be interesting...

By the way, since technology has gotten better by leaps and bounds since the original Shenmue and it's sequel I hope they take that into consideration when making 3. The original may have been revolutionary for it's time but kids these days would find it boring.


so letting a studio die like with Phantom dust and make nothing with the IP is the better way?

http://kotaku.com/how-a-small-game-studio-almost-made-it-big-1696997142

this game could have been saved with a kickstarter 

Or it could have still died.

But then thousands of gamers would have already paid full price for the game (or more) without any recourse.



Making shenmue III was a risk for any company to fund. By starting it on kickstarter, you can literally properly measure how interested gamers are. There is really not much I can say that doesn't make sense. It raises eyebrows, no doubt but at the very least, SoNY should be able to properly finish funding and has the properly person to make sure it stays true to the original games.



"Trick shot? The trick is NOT to get shot." - Lucian

I have backed ~50 game on kickstarter, 20 is out now, out of these 20, 17 is good and what i wanted, one is still patched and average but go in good way, and 2 have end bad...

For me kickstarter is amazing, cost less, get bonus, get involved in devs and make game who would not happenend otherwise !!