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You're dead wrong Soundwave. You know full well Microsoft is holding back for Gamescom. This has been known, hence why some games were pushed back. Sony has nothing at Gamescom. They blew their load at E3 and what an impressive showing it was. Dont underestimate them. They have more to show, including games we have yet to see gameplay from. Sony's first party puts Microsofts to shame, but i'll be damned if I didnt say I wasnt hyped to see what Scalebound looks like.



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I still own my 360 and haven't touched it in a year. Actually I think it's time to pack it up and put it in the attic.

Backwards compatibility was good when you didn't have many sources to get your games. You can get a game anywhere now.



HollyGamer said:
smroadkill15 said:

Currently it's over 20 games for preview members at this moment. I'm looking at my 'ready to install' right now with 8 X360 games right now. This is a quote from xbox.com, "with over 100 titles slated for this fall, and hundreds more added every month". I'm not sure where your getting this 100 title final from, but it's wrong. 

Or maybe just maybe MS is smart enough to know even with marketing COD, it would still sell better on ps4, same with the majority of 3rd party titles so it's pointless to waste so much $$ on 3rd party marketing. I also don't think getting backwards compatibility cost as much as you probably think. It's more of trying to figure out how to get it to work. 


 Yeah that's my mistake they will add more games compatible on the future, but it still less then what people hope for, and only selective title will be available, because like i mention on previous thread is almost impossible to emulate the games using X86 cpu because Xbox 360 running on 3 power PC CPU, and X86 and Power PC is like haven and earth in terms of design, even The most powerful PC unable to emulate it perfectly, and i cannot imagine how medium to low end spec of Xbox One able to emulate it. That's why i think they allocating the budget for this because it's hard  to make Xbox One Backward compatibility. 

Until you can get some real numbers behind your statement, it holds zero weight.Literally the only thing holding back every 360 title from being backwards compatible is legal documents at this point. This is the only true known fact, and has been stated by MS.  



I really do wonder if Nadella is forcing the XBox to division to have to go without.

Nadella was appointed CEO in Feb 2014, so it's quite possible even the Rise of Tomb Raider and certainly the Titanfall exclusivity deals were negotiating before Nadella took the reigns of the company.

Since then, MS hasn't scored any real type of third party exclusive.

And like I can understand Sony having more at their show, but to literally get shut out of Batman, Star Wars Battlefront, Assassin's Creed, Destiny, Hitman, and Call of Duty ... I mean all of them? It's mind boggling and I have to wonder if Phil Spencer really had a choice here or not.. Like how could you not even get one of those at your conference?

It seems to me like Microsoft is reprioritizing around Windows 10. Which financially probably makes a hell of a lot more sense. Allowing Valve/Steam to take over the PC gaming side while MS' game division has been running circles trying to catch Sony probably wasn't in the long term the smartest play for MS. 



smroadkill15 said:
HollyGamer said:

 Yeah that's my mistake they will add more games compatible on the future, but it still less then what people hope for, and only selective title will be available, because like i mention on previous thread is almost impossible to emulate the games using X86 cpu because Xbox 360 running on 3 power PC CPU, and X86 and Power PC is like haven and earth in terms of design, even The most powerful PC unable to emulate it perfectly, and i cannot imagine how medium to low end spec of Xbox One able to emulate it. That's why i think they allocating the budget for this because it's hard  to make Xbox One Backward compatibility. 

Until you can get some real numbers behind your statement, it holds zero weight.Literally the only thing holding back every 360 title from being backwards compatible is legal documents at this point. This is the only true known fact, and has been stated by MS.  

But the same thing goes with Phil Spencer statement, and the prove is on how small games available for now , most of the  games that run on backwardcompatibility that available know is just some simple indies or old games from an earlier Xbox 360 first year collection.  



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Soundwave said:
I really do wonder if Nadella is forcing the XBox to division to have to go without.

Nadella was appointed CEO in Feb 2014, so it's quite possible even the Rise of Tomb Raider and certainly the Titanfall exclusivity deals were negotiating before Nadella took the reigns of the company.

Since then, MS hasn't scored any real type of third party exclusive.

And like I can understand Sony having more at their show, but to literally get shut out of Batman, Star Wars Battlefront, Assassin's Creed, Destiny, Hitman, and Call of Duty ... I mean all of them? It's mind boggling and I have to wonder if Phil Spencer really had a choice here or not.. Like how could you not even get one of those at your conference?


Dont blame nadela.

Early on One survived of deals signed based on the previous gen, Once PS4 started its sales bonanza things quickly changed.  

Nobody would pay what it takes now given the user base, im sure they all are willing since they know PS4 version will still sale more while hopeing MS pay out the booty for commercials and stuff thats mostly irrelevent to the game as a whole.  

If dev X tells you to cover their loses expected to be in the 2/3 million (ps4 version) in sales for timed exclusivity on the X1, would you ?



HollyGamer said:
smroadkill15 said:

Until you can get some real numbers behind your statement, it holds zero weight.Literally the only thing holding back every 360 title from being backwards compatible is legal documents at this point. This is the only true known fact, and has been stated by MS.  

But the same thing goes with Phil Spencer statement, and the prove is on how small games available for now , most of the  games that run on backwardcompatibility that available know is just some simple indies or old games from an earlier Xbox 360 first year collection.  


Its in beta. 



jlmurph2 said:
HollyGamer said:

But the same thing goes with Phil Spencer statement, and the prove is on how small games available for now , most of the  games that run on backwardcompatibility that available know is just some simple indies or old games from an earlier Xbox 360 first year collection.  


Its in beta. 

Agree this just a beta testing, but it's too limited even for beta, Phil also said only selective title will be available so he already made statement even in the future they will have some title that will not work. 



The budget has finally been reigned in. That's the only logical answer.



HollyGamer said:
jlmurph2 said:
HollyGamer said:

But the same thing goes with Phil Spencer statement, and the prove is on how small games available for now , most of the  games that run on backwardcompatibility that available know is just some simple indies or old games from an earlier Xbox 360 first year collection.  


Its in beta. 

Agree this just a beta testing, but it's too limited even for beta, Phil also said only selective title will be available so he already made statement even in the future they will have some title that will not work. 


Its not about what will and won't work. The developer just has to give MS permission to use the game.