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On the Star Wars deal, I think Sony was able to acquire that one, with a temp trade off of the Spiderman IP back to Disney.

Since Disney has wanted Spiderman back for awhile now, I think they were able to sweeten the pot to Sony, by giving them Exclusive rights the the Star Wars game since Sony will need to generate income lost to not having a Spiderman movie in the works.

win win for both of them



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Sticky said:
Their new CEO Nadella is all about not throwing money out the window (aka at expensive Xbox endeavors) and wants to invest M$ money into more promising divisions.

I dont see xbox remaining very high up on the totem pole for M$


I'm starting to think this as well, but can MS even compete if they can't operate with the "spending willy nilly" strategy? They don't have a leg up on Sony in the Euro or Asian markets to begin with so they're starting from an inherint disadvantage. 



tokilamockingbrd said:
Its the install base difference kicking in. It just is going to cost MS a lot more to do these deals than it would Sony.




Exactly...  people are quick to dismiss this simple truth.

 

And It's really that simple. Big companies are where their interests are. PS4 has the momentum and twice the install base of XB1. Last generation 360 had the momentum and install base and third parties flocked to them.



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jlmurph2 said:
Ruler said:


and now old games matter all of the sudden?

When they're free.


by buying the new game



MS has the best ips on xbox history, but not something new. Bigest fault no gameplay for the most wanted ip Tomb raider i mean really? only runing and climb? look ucharted, also Fallout3 the same day? to bad for them , but still looks awesome So they have better gaming line up this hoiliday seasson good for them. I hope Backward Compatibility don't be a fiasco according to list of games and ''depends on developers''It must be good so Sony make better the ps now



 

 

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Ruler said:
jlmurph2 said:

When they're free.


by buying the new game


The new game that you were gonna buy anyway.



jlmurph2 said:
Ruler said:


by buying the new game


The new game that you were gonna buy anyway.


Who says were going to support this as Sony fans? I wont, that game comes into my house until its 10€ bargain bin maybe. 



HollyGamer said:
smroadkill15 said:

They start with 100 games and will add more over time. I'm not sure why such a huge feature is being down played...but whatever floats your boat man.

They are starting with less then 10 games , you can check on google how many games already available and targeting 100 games for the final. Then again i am not downplaying it, i am just assuming that their budget was relocated to diffference area which is building backward compatibility (either emulate it or just simply porting it).

Backward compatibility is a great feature never the less, i am just saying their focusing and investing on the past games, not saying they dont have new IP, but interms of games exclusivity and third party exclusive games and marketing it's entirely  different from their previous E3 shows, Maybe it's good thing, or bad i dont know. 

Currently it's over 20 games for preview members at this moment. I'm looking at my 'ready to install' right now with 8 X360 games right now. This is a quote from xbox.com, "with over 100 titles slated for this fall, and hundreds more added every month". I'm not sure where your getting this 100 title final from, but it's wrong. 

Or maybe just maybe MS is smart enough to know even with marketing COD, it would still sell better on ps4, same with the majority of 3rd party titles so it's pointless to waste so much $$ on 3rd party marketing. I also don't think getting backwards compatibility cost as much as you probably think. It's more of trying to figure out how to get it to work. 




Ruler said:
jlmurph2 said:


The new game that you were gonna buy anyway.


Who says were going to support this as Sony fans? I wont, that game comes into my house until its 10€ bargain bin maybe. 


That's you. But if you look at Amazon. Sony fans are definitely supporting it.



smroadkill15 said:
HollyGamer said:

They are starting with less then 10 games , you can check on google how many games already available and targeting 100 games for the final. Then again i am not downplaying it, i am just assuming that their budget was relocated to diffference area which is building backward compatibility (either emulate it or just simply porting it).

Backward compatibility is a great feature never the less, i am just saying their focusing and investing on the past games, not saying they dont have new IP, but interms of games exclusivity and third party exclusive games and marketing it's entirely  different from their previous E3 shows, Maybe it's good thing, or bad i dont know. 

Currently it's over 20 games for preview members at this moment. I'm looking at my 'ready to install' right now with 8 X360 games right now. This is a quote from xbox.com, "with over 100 titles slated for this fall, and hundreds more added every month". I'm not sure where your getting this 100 title final from, but it's wrong. 

Or maybe just maybe MS is smart enough to know even with marketing COD, it would still sell better on ps4, same with the majority of 3rd party titles so it's pointless to waste so much $$ on 3rd party marketing. I also don't think getting backwards compatibility cost as much as you probably think. It's more of trying to figure out how to get it to work. 


 Yeah that's my mistake they will add more games compatible on the future, but it still less then what people hope for, and only selective title will be available, because like i mention on previous thread is almost impossible to emulate the games using X86 cpu because Xbox 360 running on 3 power PC CPU, and X86 and Power PC is like haven and earth in terms of design, even The most powerful PC unable to emulate it perfectly, and i cannot imagine how medium to low end spec of Xbox One able to emulate it. That's why i think they allocating the budget for this because it's hard  to make Xbox One Backward compatibility.