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last92 said:
Let's just wait for more reviews. Right now, we only have the opinion of 3 relevant magazines (kotaku, dualshockers and famitsu). Before commenting like a fanboy, I suggest we just see how the critic will score the game on avg.
Oh, btw rejecting some scores/opinions and accepting others just because they must fit an agenda is just sad. Please, stop.

The fact that the story is poor is a huge issue for me, hopefully it's not so bad or the guy had problems understanding it because he doesn't know japanese so well...


Tell that to Metacritic who also reject Kotaku's review scores from their data. They have proven themselves time and again to be a hub of clickbait, if you're someone who continues to click? Please.... stop.



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ganoncrotch said:
last92 said:
Let's just wait for more reviews. Right now, we only have the opinion of 3 relevant magazines (kotaku, dualshockers and famitsu). Before commenting like a fanboy, I suggest we just see how the critic will score the game on avg.
Oh, btw rejecting some scores/opinions and accepting others just because they must fit an agenda is just sad. Please, stop.

The fact that the story is poor is a huge issue for me, hopefully it's not so bad or the guy had problems understanding it because he doesn't know japanese so well...


Tell that to Metacritic who also reject Kotaku's review scores from their data. They have proven themselves time and again to be a hub of clickbait, if you're someone who continues to click? Please.... stop.

How can metacritic accept Kotaku if they don't use a scoring system? Same thing with Eurogamer?



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SubiyaCryolite said:
 

 Lastly Amazon.co.jp has 493 reviews for Xenoblade Chronicles X(3.5) and 530 for Xenoblade Chronicles(4.5) so I'll still lean towards those till further notice [Amazon bias]. Just how big are those other retailers?

Significantly larger in Japan, the difference is you have to have had a fullfilled order to post a review, unlike amazon, and believe it or not, there's downviting trolls even in Japan.

 

A lot of those amazon reviews show clear signs of being done hrough google translate, too, litteral translations of phrases and structure that lacks any sense, a dead giveaway to someone with a functional knowledge of Japanese.



ganoncrotch said:
last92 said:
Let's just wait for more reviews. Right now, we only have the opinion of 3 relevant magazines (kotaku, dualshockers and famitsu). Before commenting like a fanboy, I suggest we just see how the critic will score the game on avg.
Oh, btw rejecting some scores/opinions and accepting others just because they must fit an agenda is just sad. Please, stop.

The fact that the story is poor is a huge issue for me, hopefully it's not so bad or the guy had problems understanding it because he doesn't know japanese so well...

Tell that to Metacritic who also reject Kotaku's review scores from their data. They have proven themselves time and again to be a hub of clickbait, if you're someone who continues to click? Please.... stop.

Doesn't Metacritic take Quarter to Three as a legitimate review outlet? Not a standard to hold to.



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ganoncrotch said:


Tell that to Metacritic who also reject Kotaku's review scores from their data. They have proven themselves time and again to be a hub of clickbait, if you're someone who continues to click? Please.... stop.


That's why I said to wait for more reviews, didn't I?

Ofc, if the game averages around 85 (which is good) I hope I won't see people going around saying that critics don't matter and the game deserves at least 95 (and I read something like this for Splatoon). Averages are there because they must somehow summarize the opinion of all kinds of reviewers. Which is why saying that a reviewer shouldn't be considered because he said he didn't like the previous chapter in the series is silly.

After all "universal acclaim" exactly means that almost everyone that played the game loved it. If a relevant share of reviewers don't like it, it deserves less than 90%, period. Oh and we both know that metaritic doesn't include kotaku's reviews for a different reason.



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They really should have made a game like the first Xenoblade and used it's universe/music etc.



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Hopefully this opinion is of the minority because I'm pretty excited about this game



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SubiyaCryolite said:
Tachikoma said:

Thanks for your response

  • I think he acknowledged that "There a numerous side quests to be done in between story missions—one or two of which are usually prerequisites for starting the next story mission". Also, taking a long time to complete a task doesnt necessarily mean he had a satisfying(meaty) experience doing so. This is his job so I guess he has to play games for a significant amount of time before he can even write about them. Which leads to...
  • Just how engaging (varied, complex, interesting, fun etc) are regular sub and side quests? Particularly those that aren't labelled "simple".
  • Tricky, your word against his. Why does it take so long to level up and get a mech? is that time spent on quests or "grinding"?
  • Nothing to say here
  • "The combat and overclock systems just fine, the storyline is fine, not amazing but certainly not boring either" fine as in good, very good or excellent. There's too much room for interpretation here and RPGs are usually judged as a whole. This isn't like Bayonetta where you can dismiss the story or characters as not important for example.

As I initially said expectations in the RPG genre as a whole have been raised, will the game meet those expectations? If Dragon Age Inquisition was released today for example, it would score a hell of a lot less just because of everything introduced in The Witcher 3. The main point of this thread was to find out how western reviewers and customers would react to the game post Witcher 3 (lol)For example, character relationships, dialog, npcs and side quests will never be looked at the same way again. Many people are talking about it, even in Fallout 4 discussions [on GAF at least].

 Lastly Amazon.co.jp has 493 reviews for Xenoblade Chronicles X(3.5) and 530 for Xenoblade Chronicles(4.5) so I'll still lean towards those till further notice [Amazon bias]. Just how big are those other retailers?

Well, interesting. At times every second post in this thread is from you and all are trying to put some credit behind the claims of some random writer who disliked the game. At the same time you try to discuss down the opinion of Tachikoma, another random writer who happens to like the game. You are entitled to your own opinion, but it is interesting that this topic is seemingly so important to you that you post a lot. Why do you want to push a point of view so hard? And thats for a game most of us couldn't play yet and that most likely includes you (except you imported).

It is one thing to be sceptical. I personally think it is dumb to buy first day anyways (I still do it for Atlus and Intelligent Systems, some games with forst week sales or bundles and some with online events). But if you want to avoid a desaster on the scale of The Order you can simply wait until two weeks after release. Until then it should be clear what to think about the game. For example, by now you can already say that Bloodborne and The Witcher 3 hold to their hype and are good games, despite what some people might think. Cherry picking some vague hints that the game sucks is strange, even more as Tachikoma showed us that you also can find plenty of hints in the other direction.



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I disregard his opinion mostly because it pretty clear that he dislikes exactly what the original Xenoblade was, because that is essentially what he's described. I loved the original Xenoblade, I loved the 3DS port, and if this is like those games I will love that as well. As I suspect will the majority of the gaming press when this game is released.

I do not think Kotaku is being unreasonably harsh or anything. If he doesn't like that kind of game, he doesn't like it. It just doesn't really apply to me.



Doesn't sounds so good. I still will play it, but it is still bad to see not so hot reception from some reviewers.



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