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Marketing 259 26.84%
 
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Cultists fans 92 9.53%
 
More mainstream 111 11.50%
 
Total:965
SWORDF1SH said:
onionberry said:
GameMasterPC said:

That can be said for all consoles this gen.

not for the wii u, the wii was dated just like the wii u but it's the first time that we play HD Nintendo games, still dated but it's a reall progression compared to the wii. the xbox one and ps4 are just like a new phone, very cool but then "okay". hopefully their exclusives are going to change my mindset.

Wait! What did I just read?

Now you've confused me a little. If you play PS4 and X1 then Wii U should look dated no matter if it's Mario HD. If it's graphics you're after, isn't games like Ryse, Drive Club, Killzone and The Order not good enough?

Even games like Second Son, Forza Horizon and Metal Gear Solid show a good leap from last gen.  GTAV PS4/X1 shows a big leap from it's last gen version.

Not sure how you can say that the Wii U give's you that "Next Gen Feeling" when it shows the same leap in graphics from PS3/360 to PS4/X1 and way way less impressive in the graphics department.

I'm comparing the wii u to the wii, I'm comparing the ps4 to the ps3. The wii u is dated, but thanks to that it's a big progression from the also dated wii (just like ps2 vs ps4). the ps3 was not dated, just like the ps4, and thanks to that, the progression is simple. I'm not praising or downgrading any hardware, just stating how I see those consoles.



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onionberry said:

I'm comparing the wii u to the wii, I'm comparing the ps4 to the ps3. The wii u is dated, but thanks to that it's a big progression from the also dated wii (just like ps2 vs ps4). the ps3 was not dated, just like the ps4, and thanks to that, the progression is simple. I'm not praising or downgrading any hardware, just stating how I see those consoles.


All of them enjoyed a similar jump in power and performance. The Wii U got a jump that puts it a little above the PS3 and XBox 360. Since the Wii was a gen behind in performance compared to the HD twins, it jumped a generation forward, just like the PS4 and XBO. But with that jump, it just managed to reach he performance and power of the 7th gen HD twins. It's more powerful than those two, but not significantly enough to put it in a league of its own.

I get what you mean about Nintendo finally providing a console that offers HD graphics. But resolution isn't the only thing that should to be taken into account when gauging the graphics performance. What the PS4 and XBO can do is leagues beyond what the 7th gen consoles could do. The Wii U made a jump similar to the other two, while still being quite outdated. 

But I'm with you on one thing: Seeing those Nintendo franchises finally in HD is a sight to behold. Zelda U is currently being of the best looking game I've seen so far this gen (and I can't wait for them to show us more, dammit!). Despite not being as technically advanced as games like The Witcher 3 (which also look phenomenal). Nintendo's flair for visual styles that take advantage of the hardware's strengths while doing one heck of a job to work with their limitations, makes for games that stant the test of time better than what most other developers produce. Wind Waker being the best example of that. When all there needs to be done for a game to remain fresh visually is a resolution bump... Games like Metroid Prime Trilogy, Super Mario Galaxy and Pikmin would look like Wii U games still just with that resolution bump. Anyway, I digress. I get what you mean about the jump from SD to HD. Which is kinda dramatic compared to just being able to work with more polygons, better shaders, more dynamic effects, etc... But the jump is just the same across the board for all 3 consoles.



onionberry said:
SWORDF1SH said:
onionberry said:

not for the wii u, the wii was dated just like the wii u but it's the first time that we play HD Nintendo games, still dated but it's a reall progression compared to the wii. the xbox one and ps4 are just like a new phone, very cool but then "okay". hopefully their exclusives are going to change my mindset.

Wait! What did I just read?

Now you've confused me a little. If you play PS4 and X1 then Wii U should look dated no matter if it's Mario HD. If it's graphics you're after, isn't games like Ryse, Drive Club, Killzone and The Order not good enough?

Even games like Second Son, Forza Horizon and Metal Gear Solid show a good leap from last gen.  GTAV PS4/X1 shows a big leap from it's last gen version.

Not sure how you can say that the Wii U give's you that "Next Gen Feeling" when it shows the same leap in graphics from PS3/360 to PS4/X1 and way way less impressive in the graphics department.

I'm comparing the wii u to the wii, I'm comparing the ps4 to the ps3. The wii u is dated, but thanks to that it's a big progression from the also dated wii (just like ps2 vs ps4). the ps3 was not dated, just like the ps4, and thanks to that, the progression is simple. I'm not praising or downgrading any hardware, just stating how I see those consoles.

I get what you're trying to say but wii hardware is slightly better than PS2 and Wii U is slightly better than PS3. It's not had a 2 gen leap as it's nowhere near the same hardware as PS4/X1. All 3 have had similar leaps in graphics. Wii U is a great little console and a good amount of power for it exclusives IP's that tend to be cartoony and colourful. The downside is that any 3rd party game will look dated against the PS4/X1.

Graphics aren't everything though, I do like good graphics but around 50% of the games I enjoy aren't dependent on eye melting visuals. I just found the point you made about graphics a bit strange

 



BreedinBull said:
The bitterness towards Sony is insane. Like they kicked some peoples puppy or something the way people go off about them.


Whys it have to be bitterness or something equally silly? So many posts like this, whats the point of the thread?

Maybe some of us simply dont see anything special Sony has done this gen aside from taking advantage of the other twos mistakes? Nothing bitter about that.

 

We heard all of last gen how PS3 was in 2nd/3rd only because of Sony mistakes. I guess if you believe Sony has a de facto standard right to sell over 150 million consoles every gen  then any other point of view seem like bitterness. I dont think anyone here has anything to be bitter about though.



-PS brand is very strong worldwide
-Sony did a great job marketing the console as a console 4 the players.
-Most powerful hardware.
-PS consoles are known for always having a big variety of games.
-The competition screwing things up a lot also helped.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
BreedinBull said:
The bitterness towards Sony is insane. Like they kicked some peoples puppy or something the way people go off about them.


Whys it have to be bitterness or something equally silly? So many posts like this, whats the point of the thread?

Maybe some of us simply dont see anything special Sony has done this gen aside from taking advantage of the other twos mistakes? Nothing bitter about that.

 

We heard all of last gen how PS3 was in 2nd/3rd only because of Sony mistakes. I guess if you believe Sony has a de facto standard right to sell over 150 million consoles every gen  then any other point of view seem like bitterness. I dont think anyone here has anything to be bitter about though.


It is a bit odd. I own all three consoles, I'm enjoying the PS4 the most because of 1 game (I'm absolutely loving Bloodborne), and I'm sure it'll switch to the Xbox One / Wii U when I find a game I love on those. Favorite console only last as long as your favorite games on each one.



the name playstation.
if xbox was named playstation and vice-versa, MS would win this gen.



sony is winning since nintendo and micro fucked up all, not to mention that the console is more powerful nd has a wide third party support, although their false advertisements have also been a good factor

 

Neverthless, i still enjoy a variety of wii u games besides nintendo ones

 



Because Sony struck a deal with Mac Donalds to put hypnotic drugs in everyone's Mac Doubles and Diet pop. This drug would make anyone under the influence, purchase a PS4 if they see an ad. I guess you can call it marketing...at it's finest.

Seriously though, Sony has games. Everyone else doesn't. I hate to say it. XBone has games, Sony has more. Nintendo...has games....I think...Sony has more. Software sells hardware and stuff that Iwata always says. PS4 is also competitively priced to beat Wii U and Xbone. Sony has had a good hold on the console gaming market since PS1. The fans keep coming back as well. Unlike other companies, Sony has found a way to incorporate all the tactics and strategies of your poll choices. It amazes me. In short, it's just a good system that people make connections with. It makes me wonder if Nintendo or Microsoft should even still make consoles anymore.



Microsoft's DRM fumble, Nintendo being Nintendo, and Sonys Marketing is on point