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DonFerrari on 13 June 2015
ReimTime said:
How many times do I have to say it? ND makes a trilogy and then adds a racing game!
Crash 1, 2, 3 + Crash Bash
Jak 1, 2, 3 + Jak X

Next up are Unkarted and The Fast of Us


You got me laughing with The Fast of Us...

Unkarted is only a matter of time... maybe UC4 will have a karting mode so they keep their trend of trilogy and kart.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DakonBlackblade on 13 June 2015

Dont know why you ppl find it hard to believe that ND will move on and never make an Uncharted game again, theyve done it twice in the past already, with Crash Bandicoot and jack and Daxter.



Azzanation on 15 June 2015
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

Sounds like he dies in Uncharted 4 because I doubt they will end the Uncharted Series, since its Sony's best franchise. Without it, what does Sony have to compete with Mario or Halo? They have franchises but nothing bigger then Uncharted under Sony's umbrella. Which is why they wont kill it off in my opinion. Uncharted will still be made just not with Nathan Drake.


Without Nathan Drake they won PS1,2 and is winning 4 gens... with him they lost PS3 gen... so I don't think Uncharted is related to PS winning.

The difference is your terms of winning compared to mine. Winning in Hardware sales does not mean winning in Software sales or winning in general. Whats more importent? Uncharted and GT are the only 2 Sony franchises that actrually compete with the big boys when it comes to Software sales, everything else doesnt. Sure Sony can sell more Hardware units but that doesnt mean they win. Remember the PS2 was also sold for a loss for many years. For example - If you sell 1 million PS2s at a loss of $1 that doesnt mean you win. Same went for PS3, it was sold at a loss because Sony were losing heaps due to price cuts. 360 was also sold for a loss however Xbox had Live Subscritions to counter the Hardware losses hence why Sony followed MS with the paywall.

Uncharted is the Face of Playstation, ending the series will mean Sony doesnt have a mascot. Its not that importent but as a company your profits are in the Software sales not the Hardware sales. Uncharted, like Mario and Halo sell millions, unlike Hardware sales which the more consoles they sell the more money they lose unless your paying for there online services.

Nintendo broke out even on the gamecube considering it only sold 24milion consoles, why? because its Software sold extremly well. Same went for the N64, it only sold 40million units yet was profitable because Nintendo games make the difference for the company not the Hardware.

These are the reasons why i dont care for hardware sales. it does nothing for anybody unless your a shareholder. A high selling console and no one is playing the same games as you it means nothing, compared to a low selling console yet everyone is playing the same games as you means alot more.



beeje13 on 15 June 2015

Whether ND do something Uncharted after the Drake Quadrilogy is purely up to ND, it has been stated on both sides that they have full creative contol as they have so much mutual trust.



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Hynad on 15 June 2015
GribbleGrunger said:
I've cracked the code:

TLOU

The Last Of Uncharted.


You are so unoriginal... -___-

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7338173



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DonFerrari on 15 June 2015
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

Sounds like he dies in Uncharted 4 because I doubt they will end the Uncharted Series, since its Sony's best franchise. Without it, what does Sony have to compete with Mario or Halo? They have franchises but nothing bigger then Uncharted under Sony's umbrella. Which is why they wont kill it off in my opinion. Uncharted will still be made just not with Nathan Drake.


Without Nathan Drake they won PS1,2 and is winning 4 gens... with him they lost PS3 gen... so I don't think Uncharted is related to PS winning.

The difference is your terms of winning compared to mine. Winning in Hardware sales does not mean winning in Software sales or winning in general. Whats more importent? Uncharted and GT are the only 2 Sony franchises that actrually compete with the big boys when it comes to Software sales, everything else doesnt. Sure Sony can sell more Hardware units but that doesnt mean they win. Remember the PS2 was also sold for a loss for many years. For example - If you sell 1 million PS2s at a loss of $1 that doesnt mean you win. Same went for PS3, it was sold at a loss because Sony were losing heaps due to price cuts. 360 was also sold for a loss however Xbox had Live Subscritions to counter the Hardware losses hence why Sony followed MS with the paywall.

Uncharted is the Face of Playstation, ending the series will mean Sony doesnt have a mascot. Its not that importent but as a company your profits are in the Software sales not the Hardware sales. Uncharted, like Mario and Halo sell millions, unlike Hardware sales which the more consoles they sell the more money they lose unless your paying for there online services.

Nintendo broke out even on the gamecube considering it only sold 24milion consoles, why? because its Software sold extremly well. Same went for the N64, it only sold 40million units yet was profitable because Nintendo games make the difference for the company not the Hardware.

These are the reasons why i dont care for hardware sales. it does nothing for anybody unless your a shareholder. A high selling console and no one is playing the same games as you it means nothing, compared to a low selling console yet everyone is playing the same games as you means alot more.

As far as I know it's Naughty Dog, not Uncharted that matters... they were record sellers with Crash, Jake, Uncharted and TLOU (which sold better than any uncharted)... so you are talking non-sense.

Sony doesn't relly on some franchise from several gens, besides GT because there is no point in changing name because it will be racing anyway.

Nintendo were profitable because of Handhelds not the consoles on those 2 generations. MS have lost a lot of money because of several issues on the gen. And PS2 had very health profits because of royalties... you don't need your 1st parties selling 20M if you can sell 7M and have several 3rds selling 5-25M paying you royalties...

I don't care about sales in this regard, I just play one console and 1 copy of the game so why should someone care about sales of SW and not HW? You either care about both or none... I don't get a cent of it, so as long as it's healthy and keeps getting releases to please me I'm ok.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Azzanation on 18 June 2015
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:
Azzanation said:

Sounds like he dies in Uncharted 4 because I doubt they will end the Uncharted Series, since its Sony's best franchise. Without it, what does Sony have to compete with Mario or Halo? They have franchises but nothing bigger then Uncharted under Sony's umbrella. Which is why they wont kill it off in my opinion. Uncharted will still be made just not with Nathan Drake.


Without Nathan Drake they won PS1,2 and is winning 4 gens... with him they lost PS3 gen... so I don't think Uncharted is related to PS winning.

The difference is your terms of winning compared to mine. Winning in Hardware sales does not mean winning in Software sales or winning in general. Whats more importent? Uncharted and GT are the only 2 Sony franchises that actrually compete with the big boys when it comes to Software sales, everything else doesnt. Sure Sony can sell more Hardware units but that doesnt mean they win. Remember the PS2 was also sold for a loss for many years. For example - If you sell 1 million PS2s at a loss of $1 that doesnt mean you win. Same went for PS3, it was sold at a loss because Sony were losing heaps due to price cuts. 360 was also sold for a loss however Xbox had Live Subscritions to counter the Hardware losses hence why Sony followed MS with the paywall.

Uncharted is the Face of Playstation, ending the series will mean Sony doesnt have a mascot. Its not that importent but as a company your profits are in the Software sales not the Hardware sales. Uncharted, like Mario and Halo sell millions, unlike Hardware sales which the more consoles they sell the more money they lose unless your paying for there online services.

Nintendo broke out even on the gamecube considering it only sold 24milion consoles, why? because its Software sold extremly well. Same went for the N64, it only sold 40million units yet was profitable because Nintendo games make the difference for the company not the Hardware.

These are the reasons why i dont care for hardware sales. it does nothing for anybody unless your a shareholder. A high selling console and no one is playing the same games as you it means nothing, compared to a low selling console yet everyone is playing the same games as you means alot more.

As far as I know it's Naughty Dog, not Uncharted that matters... they were record sellers with Crash, Jake, Uncharted and TLOU (which sold better than any uncharted)... so you are talking non-sense.

Sony doesn't relly on some franchise from several gens, besides GT because there is no point in changing name because it will be racing anyway.

Nintendo were profitable because of Handhelds not the consoles on those 2 generations. MS have lost a lot of money because of several issues on the gen. And PS2 had very health profits because of royalties... you don't need your 1st parties selling 20M if you can sell 7M and have several 3rds selling 5-25M paying you royalties...

I don't care about sales in this regard, I just play one console and 1 copy of the game so why should someone care about sales of SW and not HW? You either care about both or none... I don't get a cent of it, so as long as it's healthy and keeps getting releases to please me I'm ok.

Your argument is flawed based off this sentence quote

*Nintendo were profitable because of Handhelds not the consoles on those 2 generations. MS have lost a lot of money because of several issues on the gen*

Nintendo makes money on there consoles and there Software sales make a huge difference and thats there primary source of income, because alot of Nintendo franchises sell millions. There B grade franchises make up Uncharted sales. As for Xbox, you have no idea how much money MS rake in with Xbox Live. Imagine the income for 10 years with more then 10million subcribers paying $50 a year for Live. $50 x 10million over 10 years. At one stage MS had 55 million subcribers in 1 year. Sorry MS made a fortune on the 360 even with its unknown issues you speak of. PS2 and PS3 had no subs and there hardware was butchered so they could sell it and they sold there consoles at a loss. Halo 4 alone made $220million for Xbox. 



GribbleGrunger on 18 June 2015
Hynad said:


You are so unoriginal... -___-

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=7338173

Oh dear, even my posts have been posted before.



 

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DonFerrari on 18 June 2015
Azzanation said:
DonFerrari said:

As far as I know it's Naughty Dog, not Uncharted that matters... they were record sellers with Crash, Jake, Uncharted and TLOU (which sold better than any uncharted)... so you are talking non-sense.

Sony doesn't relly on some franchise from several gens, besides GT because there is no point in changing name because it will be racing anyway.

Nintendo were profitable because of Handhelds not the consoles on those 2 generations. MS have lost a lot of money because of several issues on the gen. And PS2 had very health profits because of royalties... you don't need your 1st parties selling 20M if you can sell 7M and have several 3rds selling 5-25M paying you royalties...

I don't care about sales in this regard, I just play one console and 1 copy of the game so why should someone care about sales of SW and not HW? You either care about both or none... I don't get a cent of it, so as long as it's healthy and keeps getting releases to please me I'm ok.

Your argument is flawed based off this sentence quote

*Nintendo were profitable because of Handhelds not the consoles on those 2 generations. MS have lost a lot of money because of several issues on the gen*

Nintendo makes money on there consoles and there Software sales make a huge difference and thats there primary source of income, because alot of Nintendo franchises sell millions. There B grade franchises make up Uncharted sales. As for Xbox, you have no idea how much money MS rake in with Xbox Live. Imagine the income for 10 years with more then 10million subcribers paying $50 a year for Live. $50 x 10million over 10 years. At one stage MS had 55 million subcribers in 1 year. Sorry MS made a fortune on the 360 even with its unknown issues you speak of. PS2 and PS3 had no subs and there hardware was butchered so they could sell it and they sold there consoles at a loss. Halo 4 alone made $220million for Xbox. 

That certainly explain Nintendo profit for 3 years in a row. They sell million sw and don't take a hit in sw on this gen as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Yafea on 19 June 2015

it was bound to happen ... ND always move to new franchise after 3-4 games.



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