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Do the Wii U and Vita deserve the sales they have

No they deserve less 37 7.77%
 
Vita deserves Less, Wii U... 19 3.99%
 
Wii U does deserve more, Vita deserves less 131 27.52%
 
They both deserve more 184 38.66%
 
Vita deserves more, Wii U less 52 10.92%
 
Wii U should have the com... 52 10.92%
 
Total:475

Wii U is a fantastic console. Too bad Nintendo didn't get it how to make the Wii owners purchase a Wii U (hint: WiiMote/Nunchuck)...



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No, they don't. Shit happens: economic crisis, rise of mobile gaming market,... In an ideal world everything would have end up with good sales (7th gen). If everyone understand that everything doesn't have to adapt to please all of your tastes, then we can have better conversations on this site



 

 

We reap what we sow

hatersgonnahate7 said:

Vita deserves even less than it did. It was an expensive handheld with no games. it had little to no support from sony since launch. there's no point in using the memory cards as excuses for it's failure, it lacks games.

Wii U on the other hand has the best games and the lowest price of the 8th gen + free online. It's trully a console for gamers and deserved much more. It's only selling bad because of sony and microsoft false advertising and ilegal bribery of third parties so they skip Wii U. also, "Now the Wii U has better support, but where MS is getting crap for releasing sequels, Nintendo does seem to come away with it easily." You know it's a pathetic OP when the main "argument" is 100% BS. it's amazing how not even haters can find negative things about nintendo games, so they complain about most being sequels, wich bears no relevance to game quality.

I can see that you are a Nintendo fan, but even I recognize that both Vita and Wii U were idiotic ideas. 3rd parties are skipping Nintendo because the obnoxious hardware choices demand a huge porting effort while you actually get only a few hundred thousand sales at best. It isn't even much cheaper. It's only 50 bucks cheaper than the X1, while giving you a way weaker hardware and just 32GB of storage instead of 500GB. The gamepad is expensive to manufacture while giving a poor battery life, being heavy and not even a bit ergonomic. The sticks are small and more suitable to a portable device. The triggers aren't even analogic.

It sells bad because it's weak, 3rd party unfriendly and the controller is a terrible idea. It's nor for gamers, because it doesn't even had the games that everyone wants to play, something that can be observed in this forum where a lot of Wii U owners also have a PC/PS4/X1 to play the rest of the games. MS and Sony don't have to bribe anyone. Nobody will release games on a platform that can't sell more than 250K for CoD. 3rd party tried, the sales were horrible, they just stopped. 

Vita sells bad because it's expensive and didn't gathered enough 3rd party support. It also goes for a PS3-like experience that demands big budgets while it can't sell enough games to justify that.



hatersgonnahate7 said:
DerNebel said:
Of course they do, I hope nobody tries arguing against that.

Another fail in your long resume. must be close to entering guiness.

Maybe I'll get a place next to your horrible prediction record.



DerNebel said:
hatersgonnahate7 said:
DerNebel said:
Of course they do, I hope nobody tries arguing against that.

Another fail in your long resume. must be close to entering guiness.

Maybe I'll get a place next to your horrible prediction record.

The archives on your BS statemants says you are unbeatable in that category.



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hatersgonnahate7 said:
DerNebel said:
hatersgonnahate7 said:

Another fail in your long resume. must be close to entering guiness.

Maybe I'll get a place next to your horrible prediction record.

The archives on your BS statemants says you are unbeatable in that category.

What a brilliant counter, got any examples for that Mr. "10.2 million by the end of 2013"?



Both are pretty much at where they belong IMO. Vita has more factor than just memory cards though. Games and lack of support are bigger factors, I say.



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DerNebel said:
hatersgonnahate7 said:

The archives on your BS statemants says you are unbeatable in that category.

What a brilliant counter, got any examples for that Mr. "10.2 million by the end of 2013"?

Plenty. you keep adding entries in you list of BS.



hatersgonnahate7 said:

Vita deserves even less than it did. It was an expensive handheld with no games. it had little to no support from sony since launch. there's no point in using the memory cards as excuses for it's failure, it lacks games.

Wii U on the other hand has the best games and the lowest price of the 8th gen + free online. It's trully a console for gamers and deserved much more. It's only selling bad because of sony and microsoft false advertising and ilegal bribery of third parties so they skip Wii U. also, "Now the Wii U has better support, but where MS is getting crap for releasing sequels, Nintendo does seem to come away with it easily." You know it's a pathetic OP when the main "argument" is 100% BS. it's amazing how not even haters can find negative things about nintendo games, so they complain about most being sequels, wich bears no relevance to game quality.


I am reading so much things which are wrong... You are praising the Wii U and hating the Vita...

- Vita got as much good AAA games from Sony as Wii U got from Nintendo (even if Vita games > Wii U games imo but everyone has a different opinion)
- Vita has much more new IP's than Wii U
- Vita has a better Third-Party support 
- Vita and Wii U have both free online
- Vita and Wii U are both backward compatible



Samus Aran said:
Qwark said:

Since they also develop other and might I say big games than sequels as Horizon and the recently released Bloodborne they are doing a better job than Nintendo that is for sure, not to begin about Quantic Dream, Media Molecule or Sucker Punch, which have yet unknown projects. 

Sony didn't develop Bloodborne, From Software did.

What big games does Sony have this year? Do tell me... All I see is niche stuff. If you think the PS4 is a big success because of those games than you're horribly wrong. 

Japan studios and From software it was a collibration between those two. And yes Bloodborne contributed to Sony's succes as did the fact the PS3 had plenty first party support and many new IP's and a diverse library. It is the very reason the PS1 buried the N64 succes and the PS2 buried the GC under a big pile of horseshit saleswise and being friendly with third party suport did help. Which Nintendo doesn't want to have anyways. It will not even be a question if Sony will have a more diverse first party line-up at the end of this gen, it is what Sony has done for many years.

Sony had bloodborne it didn't need more for the first half year which is just as big as Splatoon if you ask me. For the second half year neither Nintendo or Sony have a big game, but Sony has the luck of having third party support. On top of that MGS 5 could almost be counted as a PS exclusive sales wise.

The reason the PS4 launch was a succes is quite simple it didn't try to amputate all it's limbs before launching like MS with DRM and Nintendo with having a 2d platformer as launch title, having a weird controller and being underpowered with a hefty price tag. It continues to be a succes due to a constant flow of games, even some if some of them are remakes. Microsoft had a terrible launch but due to correcting is errors and getting a stream of games it outsells the Wii U easily.



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