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Mummelmann on 03 June 2015
globalisateur said:
Mummelmann said:

So, as some of you know, I'm building a rig this month and I just got an e-mail stating that the shops have gotten the 980Ti in stock within this or next week!

Now, initially, I was going with the 980GTX, and then AMD rumors started circulating that their 390X would feature 8GB of HMB, but this has later turned out to be most likely false. Now, on the one hand, the 390X will likely be a lot cheaper than the 980Ti but will only have 6GB, the 980GTX will go down in price as of right now but only has 4GB and it appears that the first 8GB single-gpu possibilities will appear in 2016.

My question to the nerds is as follows? Is it worth it? I can obviously afford it and I'm planning on building a rig that will last me about 5 years or so, the 980Ti clings very, very closely to the Titan X in performance and I'm going with 1440p gaming from here on out, I'm not keen on waiting for 8GB cards since I need a new PC now.

A cheap(er) GTX980 with 3rd party mods for more OC, the new 390X with ultra-fast HMB stacks or the monstrous 980Ti for proper future-proofing of my rig?


IMO, The most important thing, between 980ti or 390x, is that you buy either a gsync or freesync monitor depending of your card, the ideal would be a gsync and freesync screen. 

Adaptive vsync screens are the future!


I dunno, the cheapest display I can find around here with my resolution and g-sync costs about 1000$, that's quite a bit more than I want to spend on the monitor alone.



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globalisateur on 03 June 2015
Mummelmann said:


I dunno, the cheapest display I can find around here with my resolution and g-sync costs about 1000$, that's quite a bit more than I want to spend on the monitor alone.

So my advice would be: wait before buying your screen (you can already buy your GPU as current GPUs are aalready gsync or freesync ready) until you find a good screen at a good price with either g-sync or freesync. People who have tested adaptive vsync screens can't seriously go back to regular screens. 

Also with gsync (or freesync) you can seriously think about playing at 4K instead of 1440p. You can already find 4K screens with gsync at ~800$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009658

For instance one could make the argument that: 4k at 40-90fps with gsync is better than 1440p at 60-120fps without gsync...



Mummelmann on 03 June 2015
globalisateur said:
Mummelmann said:


I dunno, the cheapest display I can find around here with my resolution and g-sync costs about 1000$, that's quite a bit more than I want to spend on the monitor alone.

So my advice would be: wait before buying your screen (you can already buy your GPU as current GPUs are aalready gsync or freesync ready) until you find a good screen at a good price with either g-sync or freesync. People who have tested adaptive vsync screens can't seriously go back to regular screens. 

Also with gsync (or freesync) you can seriously think about playing at 4K instead of 1440p. You can already find 4K screens with gsync at ~800$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009658

For instance one could make the argument that: 4k at 40-90fps with gsync is better than 1440p at 60-120fps without gsync...


The main problem here is that I'm not interested in waiting to buy the display, sitting on my 1080p Samsung with the new killer rig would be worthless and there's no way I will get any sort of decent 4k performance out of a single GPU at this point, forcing me to go SLi/Crossfire, which I really want to avoid for several reasons.

Gsync display and 4k gaming just isn't where I'm going right now, it would add 40-50% to my costs (which will already be borderline ridiculous).



greenmedic88 on 03 June 2015

Just wait for the 390x price announcement.

If it offers a competitive price/performance ratio relative to the 980ti, Nvidia might adjust price on what you're probably going to end up buying.



Mummelmann on 03 June 2015
greenmedic88 said:
Just wait for the 390x price announcement.

If it offers a competitive price/performance ratio relative to the 980ti, Nvidia might adjust price on what you're probably going to end up buying.


Yeah, that's what I'm thinking as well. Nvidia may be forced to lower their prices further, they might even cut the price of the 980Ti if the 390x delivers, and if the 390x itself turns out to be great; it's a win-win for me.



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Eddie_Raja on 04 June 2015
Mummelmann said:
Eddie_Raja said:

The Fury XT (That's AMD's flagship) is coming out in two weeks.  LOL just wait!   If you want it to last 5 years, you should want the card with a next gen memory system.


The next gen memory won't help me if there's not enough of it and the card itself performs worse than the alternatives though, right? I'll wait for confirmation from official AMD spokesmen but it seems like the cards they're releasing this quarter will be underwhelming stuff. And I'm not about to wait a whole year for 8GB of HBM on their cards.

I can gauruntee it will be stronger than anything Nvidia has out now based on the specs alone.  There is some talk of HBM requiring less memory to store information, and also there might be an 8GB version.  Just.  Wait.

 

P.S.  Would you rather have 4GB of GDDR5, or 6GB of DDR3?  That is the difference we are talking about here.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Mummelmann on 04 June 2015
Eddie_Raja said:
Mummelmann said:


The next gen memory won't help me if there's not enough of it and the card itself performs worse than the alternatives though, right? I'll wait for confirmation from official AMD spokesmen but it seems like the cards they're releasing this quarter will be underwhelming stuff. And I'm not about to wait a whole year for 8GB of HBM on their cards.

I can gauruntee it will be stronger than anything Nvidia has out now based on the specs alone.  There is some talk of HBM requiring less memory to store information, and also there might be an 8GB version.  Just.  Wait.

 

P.S.  Would you rather have 4GB of GDDR5, or 6GB of DDR3?  That is the difference we are talking about here.


I think I've written about ten times in this thead now that I am waiting...

The thing is; we don't know the exact specs and we haven't seen official benchmarks or tests yet. 8GB version with HBM won't come until next year, that's been more or less confirmed by AMD at this point so that's not an option for me since I want to build this summer.

Hoping for more details either this weekend or next week; it's about time we got them since the series launches in about three weeks.



Random_Matt on 04 June 2015

390X and Fury X release after E3 i believe. It's really a choice of the 390X which is 8GB or the 4GB Fury or Fury X. There is a Fury Pro as well.



Mummelmann on 04 June 2015
Random_Matt said:
390X and Fury X release after E3 i believe. It's really a choice of the 390X which is 8GB or the 4GB Fury or Fury X. There is a Fury Pro as well.


Are the 8GB cards confirmed for release in 2015 though? I can't seem to find any solid news and all rumors suggest a 2016 release for 8GB single GPU's from AMD, at least the ones with HBM.

Most of the cards will come now in June but I think the bad boys will arrive next year with more memory and some other improvements as well.



globalisateur on 04 June 2015

You should look at those new benchmarks done by Digital Foundry testing the new 980ti at 4K, you can get really decent fps at 4K notably with the Overclocked 980ti:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-review

They really think this card, the 980ti is great for gaming at 4k or new 3.4k panel but still advise to wait before the 390x AMD release to better compare both cards.

And also directx 12 should improve those numbers significantly in the near future (~30% improvement allegedly).