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Angelus on 13 July 2017

Can't say I'm all too hyped for either game atm, but I got a lot more questions about Crackdown than Battlefront



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KiigelHeart on 13 July 2017

Crackdown easily. Battlefront was nice to play for a while but it's just too casual fps-shooter. I'll probably skip BFII.



Ruler on 13 July 2017
Goatseye said:
No one could ever explain to me, the reason how awful Japanese publishers are at handling their IPs on Xbox.
If KH3 flops on Xbox, they'll say there's no market for it on the platform. When the truth is that, they never supported or made an effort to create a fan base on the platform.


Stop talking BS, they supported you in xbox 360 era, tons of japanese exclusives to this day but you rather played cod etc. 



Why i left PC gaming

 

(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

Ruler on 13 July 2017
Barozi said:
konnichiwa said:

Well FF type zero/FFXV are on Xone and they sold weak, last generation with all those exclusive JRPG's on 360 FFXI/Infinite undiscovery/Last Remnant the games still sold horrible even games like FFXIII-FFXIII-2 and so on and when FFXIV came on the picture MS said 'No crossplay'    Honestly blame MS and the Xbox userbase. 

Pretty much everyone was agreeing back in the days, that console JRPGs that aren't FF are going to have a very hard time to get to 1m on one platform. Thus far only 2 JRPGs on PS4 made it above 1m in retail sales. Both are FF games. Persona 5will be the first non FF JRPG to achieve that.

FFXIII - 2.18m
Blue Dragon - 0.92m
Lost Odyssey - 0.9m
Dragon's Dogma - 0.79m
Star Ocean IV - 0.79m
Tales of Vesperia - 0.74m
FFXIII-2 - 0.73m
Infinite Undiscovery - 0.7m
The Last Remnant - 0.68m

That's far from horrible, especially when you consider that quite a few of those (especially those you mentioned) are games of questionable quality. Not comparable to the old KHs, FFs and the more recent titles such as Nier or Persona.

There are a lot of well known JRPGs on PS4 that bombed as well. All under 0.5m:
World of Final Fantasy
Star Ocean 5
Tales of Berseria
Tales of Zestiria
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered

Valkyria flopped as a remaster? Most of these games havent flopped, they were cheaper to produce unlike the Xbox JPRGs you have listed



Why i left PC gaming

 

(2015) Question for PS4 owners: if the situation would be reverse? would you still play on PS4?

(2015) The "I don't care PS4 is the most powerful console" thread

NobleTeam360 on 13 July 2017

Crackdown.



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Barozi on 13 July 2017
Ruler said:
Barozi said:

Pretty much everyone was agreeing back in the days, that console JRPGs that aren't FF are going to have a very hard time to get to 1m on one platform. Thus far only 2 JRPGs on PS4 made it above 1m in retail sales. Both are FF games. Persona 5will be the first non FF JRPG to achieve that.

FFXIII - 2.18m
Blue Dragon - 0.92m
Lost Odyssey - 0.9m
Dragon's Dogma - 0.79m
Star Ocean IV - 0.79m
Tales of Vesperia - 0.74m
FFXIII-2 - 0.73m
Infinite Undiscovery - 0.7m
The Last Remnant - 0.68m

That's far from horrible, especially when you consider that quite a few of those (especially those you mentioned) are games of questionable quality. Not comparable to the old KHs, FFs and the more recent titles such as Nier or Persona.

There are a lot of well known JRPGs on PS4 that bombed as well. All under 0.5m:
World of Final Fantasy
Star Ocean 5
Tales of Berseria
Tales of Zestiria
Valkyria Chronicles Remastered

Valkyria flopped as a remaster? Most of these games havent flopped, they were cheaper to produce unlike the Xbox JPRGs you have listed

Remaster or not, 0.28m is poor. It's selling next to nothing in 2017
Proof that the 360 games were more expensive to make? Because development costs are RISING with each generation.



ice on 13 July 2017

I had to remind myself what thread I was in xD

@poll crackdown



ice on 13 July 2017
Ruler said:
Goatseye said:
No one could ever explain to me, the reason how awful Japanese publishers are at handling their IPs on Xbox.
If KH3 flops on Xbox, they'll say there's no market for it on the platform. When the truth is that, they never supported or made an effort to create a fan base on the platform.


Stop talking BS, they supported you in xbox 360 era, tons of japanese exclusives to this day but you rather played cod etc. 

forced support xD the fact the 360 was so popular in america and MS actually had to buy timed exclusivity for a lot of those titles.

I think Goat is just asking how they going to expect KH3 to do well when they can't even port over the previous titles? That's just a bad move on SE, they should've ported the first two back on 360 to build up to KH3. 



derpysquirtle64 on 13 July 2017
iceland said:
Ruler said:


Stop talking BS, they supported you in xbox 360 era, tons of japanese exclusives to this day but you rather played cod etc. 

forced support xD the fact the 360 was so popular in america and MS actually had to buy timed exclusivity for a lot of those titles.

I think Goat is just asking how they going to expect KH3 to do well when they can't even port over the previous titles? That's just a bad move on SE, they should've ported the first two back on 360 to build up to KH3. 

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.



 

ice on 13 July 2017
derpysquirtle64 said:
iceland said:

forced support xD the fact the 360 was so popular in america and MS actually had to buy timed exclusivity for a lot of those titles.

I think Goat is just asking how they going to expect KH3 to do well when they can't even port over the previous titles? That's just a bad move on SE, they should've ported the first two back on 360 to build up to KH3. 

Why would SE spend their money on porting frist Kingdom Hearts games to Xbox when they obviously won't sell there. The development costs will most definitely be higher than what they will get from sales.

on the 360 it would've sold well enough to warrant it, kinda my point. Right now, they might as well cancel KH3 on xbox one.