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I honestly think it's better that it isn't any quicker than 4 years. Main Zelda games should be rare treats - something to be vastly anticipated. Each one should be its own individual gem, unique from any other in the series. Should they ideally speed up the development a little bit? Perhaps, but I'd rather they delay and release another gem than rush it out.

In reality we've had 1 new Zelda game, 2 remakes and a spin-off since Skyward Sword so its not like we've been starved of Zelda in the meantime.



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ErikaEinhardt said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
id rather they take lke 4-5 years to make the game quality rather than fart one out every 2 years and rush it

And yet one of the top 3 most popular games in the franchise took just a year when one of the most hated took 5... maybe they should learn to reuse a games engine and assets every now and then.


Every Zelda becomes ''the most hated'' no one is ever happy. It's the ''Zelda Cycle'' just like Sonic has.

 

A Zelda game is announced, people are excited and then it releases and people hate it and say its the worst ever. Then they wait for the next one and the next one is annoucned and they get excited. Then its released and they say it sucks and its the worst ever and the PREVIOUS one they played(which they originaly hated) is now a good game and is ''underrated''

 

we'll just use recent examples of Wind Waker/Twilight Princess being these games. 

 

Then when Zelda U is released,people will complain about it and then say Skyward Sword is better, its just the pattern 



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TheFallen said:

Well the two previous new entries in the series. I'm not talking about remake or remasters ala Windwaker. The development time is comparable to a modern day Grand Theft Auto.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to bait fans of the series ( If you've read my posts , you'll see i'm actually a HUGE Fan). I'm waiting for the day Nintendo announces the release date so I can plan my Wii U purchase, just as I purchased a Wii last gen for Zelda only.

 Is it a question of resources Nintendo allocates? Yes, I know they've developed DS and 3DS Zelda games since ( Rockstar made GTA IV plus dlc , Red Dead Redemption AND GTA V in the same time frame between the last Zelda and the next one) I'm obviously not asking for Nintendo to UBISOFT i.e. annualize the series , I would just prefer to have a new main entry ever 3 years , as opposed to 5 years. Can anybody shed some light?

I dont get the point of this post.

Its not like Nintendo plans to launch 2 or more main-line Zelda games on a console. 

They have stated that they will, for the most part, launch one main-line game per console,

whether that is Zelda, Mario, or whatever.  

So you might as well ask the same question for Mario Kart, Smash Bros, etc.

 



mZuzek said:
ErikaEinhardt said:

And yet one of the top 3 most popular games in the franchise took just a year when one of the most hated took 5...

About Skyward Sword, yes, it's hated because of the Zelda cycle... and because it was very different in world structure and level design and exploration, etc. to a point where people didn't like it because it wasn't like any other Zelda game. Which is stupid because it still felt like Zelda and it was the best one at that.

Anyways, how the hell to you define "most popular"? Do you say that because looking around the internet you see everyone loves it and what not? I've got a better solution: numbers. And this "one of the top 3 most popular" Zelda game is actually the worst selling home console entry in the franchise and by quite some margin. And that's considering it came out at the peak of the franchise's popularity.

I'd argue that it's "hated" because it's simply not good. What it does have is a lot of fan-service, a unique art-style, and superficially interesting combat mechanics. 



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PwerlvlAmy said:
ErikaEinhardt said:
PwerlvlAmy said:
id rather they take lke 4-5 years to make the game quality rather than fart one out every 2 years and rush it

And yet one of the top 3 most popular games in the franchise took just a year when one of the most hated took 5... maybe they should learn to reuse a games engine and assets every now and then.


Every Zelda becomes ''the most hated'' no one is ever happy. It's the ''Zelda Cycle'' just like Sonic has.

You can't really compare the "Zelda Cycle" and the "Sonic Cycle." Even if we acknowledge both of them, the way they purport to work is completely different.



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Because Nintendo has this strange desire to release games that aren't broken at launch and require numerous patches.



mZuzek said:
Mythmaker1 said:

I'd argue that it's "hated" because it's simply not good. What it does have is a lot of fan-service, a unique art-style, and superficially interesting combat mechanics. 

Speak for yourself. In my opinion it's a far better game than Twilight Princess or Ocarina of Time (considering OoT by today's standards, not 1998's). I have several reasons for this, but in the end it all comes down to opinion.

No 3D Zelda game - hell, no mainline home console Zelda except Zelda 2 - has ever been "not good". They are all fantastic games. Some people like one or another better and a couple of others not so much, but they are all stellar titles.

My opinion is that Skyward Sword isn't good (on its own merits, much less judged as part of the series), but that opinion is not based on taste. The story is, by virtually any standard, shallow, badly paced, and internally inconsistent. The mechanics are, by virtually any standard, lacking strategic depth or challenge. And while elements of Ocarina of Time have not aged well, many of those elements are present in Skyward Sword, and to an even greater degree.

I don't like Skyward Sword. You may enjoy it, but I can't think of a reasonable standard by which it can be considered a "good" game.



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Mythmaker1 said:
PwerlvlAmy said:


Every Zelda becomes ''the most hated'' no one is ever happy. It's the ''Zelda Cycle'' just like Sonic has.

You can't really compare the "Zelda Cycle" and the "Sonic Cycle." Even if we acknowledge both of them, the way they purport to work is completely different.


Yes I can. They're both cycles in which people judge the franchise. Its perfect valid and its completely based off real events that commonly keep occuring



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PwerlvlAmy said:
Mythmaker1 said:

You can't really compare the "Zelda Cycle" and the "Sonic Cycle." Even if we acknowledge both of them, the way they purport to work is completely different.


Yes I can. They're both cycles in which people judge the franchise. Its perfect valid and its completely based off real events that commonly keep occuring

The "Sonic Cycle" is based on the idea that, after a game is announced, fans get excited for it and begin to think it's good. After it comes out, they realize their expectations were too high after critics and popular opinion tear it to pieces. The game is thrown on the pile of bad Sonic games, and the cycle repeats with the announcement of a enw game.

The Zelda Cycle is based on the idea that, after a game is released, it gets near-universal praise from critics and the community. After a time, the community and a portion of critics turn on the game, comparing it negatively to the last game in the series, which in turn gets a boost in status. This continues until the next game releases, at which point the cycle repeats.

As someone who is familiar with both franchises, neither of these things really hold true, and they have few similarities between them.



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mZuzek said:
Mythmaker1 said:

My opinion is that Skyward Sword isn't good (on its own merits, much less judged as part of the series), but that opinion is not based on taste. The story is, by virtually any standard, shallow, badly paced, and internally inconsistent. The mechanics are, by virtually any standard, lacking strategic depth or challenge. And while elements of Ocarina of Time have not aged well, many of those elements are present in Skyward Sword, and to an even greater degree.

I don't like Skyward Sword. You may enjoy it, but I can't think of a reasonable standard by which it can be considered a "good" game.

blah blah blah.

I could say all the same crap about...

And with that, it's done.

No thanks.



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