An unedited 30min long video? the only discussion that can happen here is going to be based on the thread title alone.

I stopped watching a couple of mintues in. Starting with the Project Cars situation and the conclusions made after they said they're short of the goal they had with the game. Not that they shouldn't be criticized, but people are quick to lump them with EA, etc. Then mentions 3D World lacking online and Splatoon lacking voice chat being excused as "developer's vision". 3rd parties don't get that excuse.

I didn't watch much more than that.

Regarding Project Cars, I think he's absolutely on point. It's alright to be upset that the title may not be released on Wii U, especially if one backed the project. However, at the same time, if they can't optimize the title to fulfill their vision, what's the point of releasing it? The team is clearly not satisfied with some broken down port to release simply to make a quick buck. It's not spite for the system but rather passion to make a quality title.

It seems like a lose-lose situation. Release it in that state and be criticized or don't release it and be criticized because the hardware didn't meet the developers vision. Obviously, the studio should do something to give back to those supporters of that specific version if the title isn't released. This developer doesn't seem the type that is trying to be malicious towards the consumer. Quite the opposite it seems.

yeah I'm not watching that

probably the same view as always "Nintendo fans see third parties as bad and people don't buy their games even when they get them" without considering all the things for the reasons we don't buy them.

The video has nothing to do with this so I don't understand why you wasted the time to post.

weird how that works huh?

If I don't watch something I won't know all of what it has in it is so I based my post on the thread title

i've always like that guy.

Entitlement is wrong though. I think its just some just dont want to see whats happening. Ninty makes systems for themselves first and foremost, nothing wrong with that, but you cant have that mentallity and expect 3rd partys to bend over bacwards to abide by it, this aint the SNES or NES days. When they started doing stupid stuff with there HW starting with N64 thats when it went off the rails. And they kept doing their own thing, which again is fine but you cant have your cake and eat it too. You cant do your own thing and expect people to follow suit, not gonna happen.

Especially since there are 3 other more viable options and especially since they dont show much interest in helping much. Say what you want about the Cell, it sucked sure but at least Sony guys tried to help 3rds better understand it. Something Ninty doesnt and seems like they wont do.

As for the fans, what is there to say, been like this since N64 that was years ago. Why some people are still surprised is beyond me. The behavior of Ninty that some praise will ensure that they will be left out so either they acccept that and hope for the best or admit that maybe Ninty should make HW a bit more in line with what everyone else is doing. Especially since no evidence has shown there games couldnt be made on something more inlines with industry standards.

Pretty sure that's the casuals and people who own ps/xbox also.

no hes not on point and he doesnt understand the problem at all.  they are liars, and scammed money with they crowdfunding plattform with fraudulent statements about the game.    its more like broken age, a scam of some lazy dev.

dont talk if you cant deliver, and dont get rude when people call you out when you talked BS.  that made people rage, not the cancelation of a game

Here's the rub:

3rd parties have really no incentive to make definitive editions of their games for Nintendo home consoles. They have to develop on weaker hardware and the best results they can expect is that the overall mix of sales favors a Nintendo platform slightly over PS or Xbox. There's very little to no recent evidence of a Nintendo home console really contributing much to a 3rd party game's sales. Why would that change now?

With sales of MK8, SSB, and other Nintendo 1st party games outpacing their GameCube counterparts, even as WiiU falls behind GC in hardware, never has it been more true that people buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.

The best you can hope for is if NX can beast up on X1 and PS4 while Nintendo cuts their royalty/licensing rates. Then and only then will 3rd parties have real incentive to aggressively pursue the Nintendo home console platform. The alternative Nintendo fans seem ready embrace in the meantime: IP outsourcing/crossovers similar to Hyrule Warriors and Pokken Fighters