So what course of action should be taken if let's say someone comes out of the closet and says he or she is a pedophile? It's not exactly like being a homosexual that is attracted to same sex but adults.

I'm sorry but I can't see a pedophile as an orientation, I think it's a strong mental disorder that needs to be secluded.

Not sure if it is a disorder or whatever you want to call it but I think it's not their fault to be paedophilic and that it could have happened to all of us theoretically (since I think it's not a choice). As long as they actively "fight" against it we should support them in doing so. If they could openly say "I don't want to be like that but it just happened to me, please help me", we should help them and don't condemn them as much as we do.

We had plenty of these discussions on German TV the last years and listening to paedophiles, experts and all the people involved I came to the conclusion that they aren't all evil humans who enjoy to do bad stuff to little children. I'm sure most of them hate that they are paedophiles and that they would instantly change it if they could.

I think we should look down on paedophilia as what it is because it is a horrible thing in my opinion but not automatically on those who have to live with it if they show the good will to be a good person. 

And to be honest, I think something bad is in many of us humans but most just never do what they sometimes think about. If it's the desire to kill the bad neighbour, raid a bank, kick an animal, sell some illegal stuff to earn some money, to beat someone while having sex or whatever. If we would know everything about the people around of us I think we couldn't sleep anymore.

I'll post my opinion later but here is why it's mental disorder:

Development and sexual orientation

Pedophilia emerges before or during puberty, and is stable over time.^[44] It is self-discovered, not chosen.^[5] For these reasons, pedophilia has been described as a disorder of sexual preference, phenomenologically similar to a heterosexual or homosexual sexual orientation.^[44] These observations, however, do not exclude pedophilia from the group of mental disorders because pedophilic acts cause harm, and pedophiles can sometimes be helped by mental health professionals to refrain from acting on their impulses which cause harm to children.^[45]

^{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia}

I know some of you waited for my responce on this subject.. But my lawyer is advicing me not to say anything..

The idea that anyone needs to ask this question is a bit spooky, to be honest, but I'll answer it anyway.

-Children are inherently vulnerable, naive and non-sexual.
-Sexual attraction to a child, therefore, is inherently a predatory act. It is a sexual attraction to someone who is vulnerable, easily controlled and possessing little to no sexual desire of there own, making it clearly rape. Children also are unable to fully grasp consequence, further making them a non-consenting sexual partner.
-The negative impacts of child molestation are well documented. Therefore, to want sexual experiences that cause harm to another is a bad thing.

So, pedophilia is clearly evil. To enjoy those things - even if you don't act on it - makes you a twisted and lousy person. I don't believe the attraction is a "choice". I believe it can be possibly learned or it can be a curse you are born with. But lots of people are born with lousy qualities. Some are selfish, some are heartless. Some care nothing for others, some get joy in others pain. If you posses any empathy, the harm being caused by pedophile acts that you are fantasizing about should kill any boner you have for kids. If it doesn't, it's because you lack empathy or are selfish or just a lousy person, and for this reason most of us in society don't like you. (by "you" I mean a pedophile, this is not directed at anyone here)

For the record, I'm sure God above would give a favorable thought to someone who is tempted by predatory sexual acts but does not act on them in the same way I'd like to think He looks favorably on someone who is tempted to steal a gold watch but chooses not to. But for us humans, if you get off on the misfortunes of children, that's a major red flag about who you are.

Does this not also work for being hetero?

You are hetero not because you chose to be a hetero but because it just happens? its self-discovered.  Being hetero can also lead to harm (when men rape women).

Do hetero's have a mental disorder now? I mean you can also "teach" hetero's to stop being hetero and start to like same sex intercourse.

I think that sums it up clearly. It however also shows why creating hate towards pedophilia is actually dangerous. It might keep people from getting help because they are to frightend to admit it. Witch would actually increase the risk of that person turning to pedosexual acts someday.

100 years ago it was normal to marry people with 12 while you were over 30, so although child abuse is repulsive, the attraction or romance itself isn't.

Because kids aren't really fully developed people or sexual beings yet.

Plus, they can't really consent. Like they can't drive a car or vote.

It's a creepy imbalance of power if an older more experienced person tries to manipulate them.

When is it informed tho?

• Does the kid have to know what sex is and that it can result in babies unless you use a condom etc. and is that enough?
• or does it have to know that its bad to have sex with older people and that its not good and unethical and whatnot? (teach arbitrary society rules?)
• or does it have to reach a specific age for it to understand?

(I mean its not like a 14 year old is dumb otherwhise kids would kill others all the time because they cannot understand what death is etc.)


As far as I am concerned we just ignore that topic because its more conventient that way and therefore our kids dont know what can happen. If we would tell our kids from the start how they were born (and no stupid STORK stories) how sex works etc then there would probably not be a debate about "not knowing enough". We tell kids that its not good to punch other kids because it causes harm etc. and our e.g 10 year old kids understand pain and death and whatnot but sex is to complicated? whaat?
We treat our children like idiots. Because most of us humans are indeed idiots.


You could also argue that a child should not eat fish or pork etc unless it understands that animals get killed.

That Babe the sheep pig.

is a family member of this:



Then everyone should raise their children as vegetarians unless they understand what meat actually is and can decide on their own. Most grown ups simply dont care anymore because they are used to eating it so why stop now when you already did this 18 years? But we are again to lazy to do this so we just dont care.