...and how it should have looked like instead imo.

So another thread about the Sony game situation, sorry guys but I wanna talk about this. :D

First of all I should say that I know that this is all hypothetical and that I can not know 100% sure how viable any of this would have been, I do believe though that a lot of this would've had a positive effect on Sonys financial bottomline and the library of the PS4.

So let's start, Sonys 2013 PS3 lineup looked like this: GoW:Ascension, MLB The Show 13, TLOU, Puppeteer, Beyond Two Souls, R&C Into the Nexus and GT6, in any other given year of the PS3s lifecycle one would have been hardpressed to call this anything but a killer lineup and in theory it still was that in 2013, problem was that it was a killer lineup when it was completely unnecessary, thanks to the start of a new generation completely taking over the gaming community. Thanks to that a lot of those PS3 can really only be said to have underperformed on the market, Puppeteer was a complete flop, R&C sales weren't noteworthy either and GT6s sales were lagging significantly behind the rest of the series.

To top it of people have been noting a lack of significant exclusive games for the PS4 for quite awhile now, which can in part be attributed to all those studios releasing PS3 games so late in its life. For those reasons I feel that Sony should have done the following instead of what they went with:

GoW Ascension should have been conscipated as a PS4 launch title, not only would it have been a pretty big plus for the PS4s launch lineup it would have also likely have had better legs on the PS4

MLB and TLOU should have stayed on PS3, MLB is self explanatory I think and TLOU was a massive success as well as the perfect swan song for the PS3 and has been doing extremely well in its remastered form too.

Puppeteers release date was borderline retarded so close to GTA, Puppeteer should have been a late spring/early summer PS4 title, the lack of competition would have definitely helped it perform significantly better.

Beyond could have stayed on PS3, the game was so inconsequential that it wouldn't have made a difference on PS4, it also performed well enough on PS3 that I don't think it would have done better on PS4.

R&C should have replaced Knack on PS4, Knack should've been cancelled and the funds for the game should have been channeled into R&C to make sure that it's ready as a PS4 launch title, it would have performed way better than on PS3.

GT6 should've received a lot more funding and should've been a crossgen title, the loss of the PS3s currently 3 million units sold could've not been offset by the PS4 so close to launch so a PS4 version alone would've definitely been less profitable, but a simultaneously also on PS4 released version of GT6 would have easily sold a good couple million extra. Should GT7 turn out to be 2015 game then that would probably change the GT situation.

Imagine Killzone, R&C, GOW and Resogun as PS4 launch titles, with GT6 coming a couple weeks later, that would have been a true killer launch lineup and the talk about the lack of games on the PS4 would be way quieter nowadays.

Does the lack of exclusive games affect PS4 sales though? All of this would make sense if PS4 sales would improve, but otherwise Sony gamers got to play those games regardless of whether or not they were on PS4. Unless the games could've improved a lot in the transition it could possibly have hurt the PS4's sales to have such a large drought for PS3. I think one of the reasons the PS4 was so successful is because the PS3 is ending its life very strongly and gamers in general expect the PS4 to continue with this game support. Conversely, one of the reasons the Wii U failed was because Nintendo let the Wii die a dry death and gamers couldn't rely on Nintendo for support.

Edit: Oops, didn't realize you were implying they'd be cross-gen. 

Yeah, other than software sales, I can't see it helping or hurting. One of the big complaints by gamers isn't that the PS4 doesn't have games, but it doesn't have many exclusive games. Ports really wouldn't change that complaint. In fact more cross-gen ports would just be more ammo for such an argument. Although it would be very nice for people whom, by chance, didn't have a PS3 but bought a PS4. And playing these titles in 1080p (and maybe 60fps) is always nice. 

completely disagree.


sony supports their (home) consoles to the bitter end. that's a big part of why the ps4 is selling so well,.. unlike the other guys i can trust sony to deliver not deliver just launch year. their 2013 lineup is a perfect reminder of why i love sony and playstation.

Kinda disagree. Its PS3's last year's performance helped PS4. MS dropped X360 support in favor of Kinect. That said, GT6, puppeteer and beyond two souls should have been PS4 title.
Another thing to consider. After PS3 performance Sony expected PS4 to sell 10 million in first year. They were not ready for this success.

I agree. That would've been a killer lineup, but as you say, hindsight is 20/20.

I'm only implying that GT6 should've been cross gen, R&C, GOW and Puppeteer should have been PS4 only imo. Being on PS4 would have helped sales of all these games imo (with GOW being the one that can be argued the most)

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I'm sorry but I completely disagree on the PS3 2013 line up having anything to do with the PS4s performance, aside from maybe TLOU.

If the PS3 2013 lineup only consisted of TLOU, MLB, Beyond and cross gen GT6, would that have looked like lack of PS3 support to you?

Well they clearly weren't ready for a lot of things concerning the PS4 :P

But yeah it would have been a risk that they would've needed to take back in 2010 probably already, so it would have been somewhat of a gamble, but like I said in retrspect I'd say that only TLOU had an actual effect on the PS4.