seinsmeld said: the funny thing is they say they nailed it. what games have come out to prove this. |
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/gamefinder/?console=ps4.html
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seinsmeld said: the funny thing is they say they nailed it. what games have come out to prove this. |
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/explore/gamefinder/?console=ps4.html
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seinsmeld said: the funny thing is they say they nailed it. what games have come out to prove this. |
Not much, it's just that ps4 is the console of choice for multiplatform games which are the real driving force in the console race this gen. Simple as that.
Mad55 said:
What in my post eludes to me thinking a generation was made in a couple of months? Please point that out. That whole race analogy does not really work here I can make plenty of analogies aout people getting on equal footing or ahead while just deciding to do just as much work as their competitors or less with shady tactics. Microsoft does not need to be twice as good as sony in my opinion to be on equal footing with sony and my point never was that they should be able to pass them while giving the same amount of effort. My whole point from the get-go wasnt that microsoft deserves to be winning it's more that sony isn't doing a whole lot to keep the lead they have its just sort of happening, its ridiculous honestly. |
Here -> "My whole point from the get-go wasnt that microsoft deserves to be winning it's more that sony isn't doing a whole lot to keep the lead they have its just sort of happening, its ridiculous honestly. "
The only way for "people getting on equal footing or ahead while just deciding to do just as much work" to happen is if what ever caused the disparity never happened.
So either A. The generation is a couple of months
or B. This is a race, so to speak.
Its simply a matter of basic math.
You admit that Sony had a better start. So it is unless you ignore that start, then you can catch up. And there are no Analogies that you could imagine that don't ignore the start.
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Honestly very well said.
Prediction for console Lifetime sales:
Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million
[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]
3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m
I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.
[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]
the-pi-guy said:
What games does any console have today? I only remember the advertising that was right. What'd they lie about? Sony doesn't pay for Nintendo not to get games. That doesn't even make any sense. The XBO one would be the console to pay to keep games off of. Sony isn't going to spend money to keep games off a Nintendo console. |
sony and ms pay third parties to skip nintendo consoles since nintendo is the biggest threat ever for them. a nintendo console with 3rd party support nullifies any need for sony and ms.
the make false advertising all the time. not only for the games, but all that "for the gamers" crap.
Mad55 said:
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Hololens, really? That thing is going to cost three times an Xbox One, it's not going to be a console add-on, unlike Morpheus. And most importantly it isn't a gaming device and I doubt is going to be, aside from Minecraft and some other simple game it won't offer much.
More games than competition means that the console is appealing to more people, so I disagree with you, it's an important advantage. Not to mention that with superior hardware and better looking multiplats PS4 is perceived as THE console, the premium product that people are willing to buy even if it costs more. Perception is an important thing you know, Sony understood it and started buliding it from the beginning. Sure, competion making mistakes helped a lot, but Sony has great merits too, it's not winning just because of luck.
Risthel said:
More games than competition means that the console is appealing to more people, so I disagree with you, it's an important advantage. Not to mention that with superior hardware and better looking multiplats PS4 is perceived as THE console, the premium product that people are willing to buy even if it costs more. Perception is an important thing you know, Sony understood it and started buliding it from the beginning. Sure, competion making mistakes helped a lot, but Sony has great merits too, it's not winning just because of luck. |
The problem with the Kinect is that it didn't make the XB1 expensive enough.
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Mad55 said:
My point was never to say that microsoft deserved better sales. I was pointing to the fact that they deserved equal sales and that sony hasn't done alot to deserve the lead they still have against Microsoft or the wiiu honestly. I pointed to Microsfts price drop as a point to why they deserve to be on equal footing. As well as other things like a better public image, constant monthly updates to the OS, and a few other things all of which I didn't believe I needed to point out givien you all know this already. Saying a company stuck with a clearer more focused path doesn't mean anythingt to me as a gamer when their not really giving me a whole lot better in comparison to the competition when it's allegedly their main focus in compairson to microsofts console. Also no one thinks of the Xbox one as a follower for resversing its rules to that of the PS4 and last gen consoles and consoles before that. People just wanted the rules reversed and they were honestly at least most people who I know prsonally who had 360's felt that way. |
But by what metric do you believe they deserve equal sales? o.O Generally speaking, whomever wants a PS4 is going to buy the PS4, whomever wants an Xbox One is going to buy an Xbox One, and those who have no particular attachment to either brand (or their exclusives) are probably just going to pick one so they can play whatever third party title they have their eye on. Now, this third group of fence-sitters will ultimately be influenced by any number of factors that the consoles really don't have in common. Price, the general 'flavor' of its library, any ancillary features that may or may not attract interest, how many of your friends already own one or the other, general buzz or word of mouth, (which is where perception ties into, for the record,) even library history for those of us who take the time to properly research the options, etc, etc, etc. In some of these fields, the Xbox One has the edge, and in others, the PS4 does.
Something you have to keep in mind, though, is that different factors are going to be more or less important to different people. Some will gravitate towards the cheapest console, some will want the one with the most stable performance, some want more shooters, others want more Japanese titles, others still just decide to play on whatever their friends already own. I've generally believed that it's not necessarily whether a console is better than its competitor that gets it to higher sales; it's simply that more people think it's better FOR THEM. You might not see a difference, (or, more specifically, the differences that are there might not bother you one way or another,) and that's fine, there's nothing saying you need to be swayed one way or the other. But in my case, it was a serious no-brainer on which to get, and that was because the PS4 simply hit waaaay more of my buttons than the Xbox One, and the Xbox One's 'pro' points- the whole multimedia Kinect thing, their own exclusives and then, later, the price, for example- just didn't outweigh what I'd miss out on. Different tastes, different conclusions.
The consoles aren't identical. Similar, yes, absolutely, but to pretend there's no POSSIBLE way anyone might pick one- either one- over the other is greatly oversimplifying things to 'Well, they both play games. Boom. Done.' By that metric, the Wii U, the Xbox One, the PC and the PS4 should ALL have equal sales. =P The differences are far subtler than comparing the PS4 or Xbox One to the Wii U, of course, but they're still there.
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Chazore said:
Dare I ask, what is your solution or answer to that?. I'll go with the brute answer of MS having to be destroyed as a company, it's the dream of the opposition and it's userbase anyway, it's either be destroyed or copy the competition, copying gets you nowhere and makes you the same and trying to do soemthing different can get you caught out from what we've already seen multiple times already. The way you put it MS is fucked if they do, fucked if they don't, same with Nintendo if we go by that logic. |
no. As long as they are in a distant 2nd or 3rd they will be better about it. Look at the 360. The XB was clobered by the PS2 so they went out their and made a good system for a reasonable price. The 360 was good for gamers in general.
To MS games were never the reason they got into the console biz, and Xbox fans need to remember that. To them its always been about taking over the TV in each home.
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most of those games u can get on other platforms, the others are shovelware,and the remaining ones are remasters i can get on my ps3. bloodborne and mgs when it comes out doesn't justify the amount of units they've sold.