mornelithe said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
There's a reason for that: it's easier to film defensive signals staring right in front of them compared to filming from the stands, for example. There's a reason Goodell burnt the tapes and handed out the punishment before a full investigation. Things were able to get REAL ugly.
Spygate was also a lot worse than what people say.
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No, you just bought the hype over it. Sorry, but we can agree to disagree here, it's quite clear having viewed your comments throughout this section that not only is your grasp of the NFL by-laws thin at best, but you have a serious hardon for seeing the Patriots burn. That's fine, but it doesn't make your point more valid.
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By the way the Patriots many times DID use the tapes during the same game. For example, the Eagles Super Bowl. Many Eagles players said during the second half the Patriots out of nowhere were able to read their blitzes to absolute perfection.
The Patriots method of Spygate was complete, that's how complex it was. This wasn't them just recording then studying film. They had a whole complex systematic method of cheating. It's quite crazy just how deep it goes.
For example: "[Eric Mangini] had three sets of signals being given, one real, two dummy. He had the same thing going when he beat the Patriots” the previous year, a former Pats employee told Sports Illustrated."
The Patriots were already gaining an advantage because other teams were forced to create more dummy signals. By the way, the Patriots knew about the dummy signals and had people that could decipher (or try to, at least) signals.
"The Packers spotted Pats video assistant Matt Estrella — who was also shooting the video during the Jets game the next season — shooting unauthorized video from the sidelines. He was asked to leave — then was spotted doing it from a tunnel, which got him booted from Lambeau Field.
“From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out,” Packers President Bob Harlan said."
When the Lions played the Pats in Foxboro in 2006, the same thing happened, Sports Illustrated reported.
The Patriots were caught cheating in 2006 by a few teams, which prompted the 2006 memo. My theory is that teams knew what was going but never had any definitive proof. Until one of Bill's own ratted on him.
But it wasn’t just a matter of filming opposing team’s coaches — it was also how that information was allegedly passed to Brady.
Offensive plays would be called based on stolen signals and the information relayed straight to Brady’s helmet, O’Leary theorizes.
“The voice in Tom Brady’s helmet was explaining the exact defense he was about to face.”
This is for the people that say Brady had nothing to do with it. Brady knew. Doug Flutie once remarked that when he went to put his helmet on after the 15 second QB cut off he was still receiving coaching information in his helmet.
“Coach Belichick’s explanation for having misinterpreted the rules, to me, that really didn’t sound like taking responsibility for what we had done, especially considering the great lengths that we had gone through to hide what we were doing.”
Source: New York Post, "Spygate: The NFL Cover-Up That Started It All." Posted 10/12/14