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JEMC said:
Solid-Stark said:
JEMC said:

More news and rumors about Fiji.

What was only a rumor, although that seemed legit, has now been proven correct. A leaked driver has confirmed the rebranding of some R9 2XX series cards to the new 3XX series. The R9 285, 290 and 290X will come back

That's not surprising, and it's not even bad news as they could simply be rebranded as the R9 370, 380 and 380X.

The problem comes from the ASUS forums (although I still have to see a link that proves it), that has listed new cards, including:

  • ASUS R9390X-DC2-8GD5
  • ASUC-2GD5S  STRIX-R9380-O
  • ASUS  STRIX-R9370-OC-4GD5
  • ASUS  STRIX-R7360X-DC2OC2-2GD5
  • ASUS  R7360-2GD5

If 390X is Fiji, and Fiji only has 4GB of HBM, how can they list an 8GB variant? Well, it could be that the 390X is Hawaii based like the 290X, not Fiji, and because of that, it will ship with 8GB of GDDR5. Meanehile, the Fiji cards with HBM will have a special name and will compete with TitanX.

Am I reading this correctly? The 260x, 270, 270x, 285, 290, and 290x are getting rebrands. 

So we have,

 

  • 7790 to 260x to 360
  • (7870) to 270 to 3xx
  • (7870) to 270x to 370
  • (7950) to 285 to 3xx
  • 290 to 3xx
  • 290x to 3xx
AMD is really keeping those 2012 cards alive. You guys follow this better than me, but I'd guess that the 270 becomes 360x, 285 becomes 370x, and the 290 and 290x become the 380 and 380x, respectively. Which means the new 390 and 390x cards will be the HBM equipped cards. Is 8GB HBM unlikely? Earlier rumors suggested them to be pricey.

 

Just a little correction, the HD 7950 went to be the R9 280, not the 285.

The 7950 and 7970 were based of Tahiti, which was the first iteration of AMD's Graphics Core Next or GCN. Then came GCN1.1 which was Hawaii and came in the form of the 290 and 290X, and then came GCN1.2 which was Tonga with the 285.

On the 8GB HBM thing... yes, it's very unlikely. It is known that the first iteration of HBM comes in packages of 1GB, and since all the diagrams showed by AMD had only 4 packages, many sites guessed that 4Gb would be the limit.

Later, AMD's Joe Macri said that until now there had been a lack of optimization when it came to the use of memory because with GDDR5 they always worked with more than enough VRAM, but that now they had been working on ways to optimize how the card deals with it with "surprising results". Obviously, AMD wouldn't have to optimize that memory usage unless they went short of it, so the 4GB has been all but confirmed.

What still has to be confirmed is if those optimizations have worked and how "only" having 4GB will impact their performance.

Price is still a mistery, but big chip+new memory+liquid cooling... well, I doubt it will come cheaper than a reference GTX 980.

Alright, thanks for the info.

If the listing is correct, of a 390x with 8gb memory, then it looks like it won't be the HBM card. It would follow that AMD will have an answer to the Titan line.



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Yes, those 8GB and the "GD5" naming point to a GDDR5 card.

Now the question is if AMD will save Fiji and HBM for a Titan X killer card (a user on another forum called it Zeus, because Zeus defeated the Titans ), and the driver leaks all but confirm that the 290/290X will be rebranded as 380/380X, what will be inside those 390 and 390X cards?

I think that AMD will go for a Hawaii chip with the improvements made with the 285's Tonga, a 2GB card that competed replaced the 3GB 280 card offering roughly the same performance while using less power. With those improvements and refinements, AMD could afford to add the extra 4GB and slighly bump the frequencies making them a lot closer to Nvidia's 980.

Or AMD is trolling us and has managed to make an 8GB HBM Fiji card .



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And a new leak has come. Ladies and gentleman, I present you the supposedly Fiji GPU:

If true, 4GB are all but confirmed.

Also, many users have tried to calculate how big the die is, and while the results vary, all points to a chip close to 600mm^2. It's huge.



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JEMC said:

And a new leak has come. Ladies and gentleman, I present you the supposedly Fiji GPU:

If true, 4GB are all but confirmed.

Also, many users have tried to calculate how big the die is, and while the results vary, all points to a chip close to 600mm^2. It's huge.

Youre always on point with the leaks! I wish I could transfer thread ownership to you. Think the mods can get the db guy to do it?



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The NX will be a 900p machine

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SubiyaCryolite said:
JEMC said:

And a new leak has come. Ladies and gentleman, I present you the supposedly Fiji GPU:

If true, 4GB are all but confirmed.

Also, many users have tried to calculate how big the die is, and while the results vary, all points to a chip close to 600mm^2. It's huge.

Youre always on point with the leaks! I wish I could transfer thread ownership to you. Think the mods can get the db guy to do it?

I don't think it's possible to do it, and I don't want to. It's your thread and it's my pleasure to post some of the things I find around.



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Ok, two more rumors about Fiji, and one of them is bad.

Rumor1

AMD Radeon R9 Fury X will be the watercooled, HBM-based flagship card

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/45602/amd-radeon-r9-fury-watercooled-hbm-based-flagship-card/index.html

AMD to announce the Radeon R9 Fury X and Fury, the HBM-based cards - not just the R9 390X

Up until this point, most people have presumed that AMD would be launching the Radeon R9 390X as its upcoming flagship video card, but we have just had an anonymous source tell us that this is wrong.

Instead, the Radeon R9 Fury X will be the flagship video card, a watercooled part based on the Fiji XT GPU. Under that, we'll have the Radeon R9 Fury, which should be based on the Fiji PRO architecture, with an entire restack of current cards. Under these two new High Bandwidth Memory-powered video cards we'll have the Radeon R9 390X, Radeon R9 390, Radeon R9 390, R9 380, R7 370 and R7 360.

The Radeon R9 Fury X will be a reference card with AIBs not able to change the cooler, but TweakTown can confirm that it will be the short card that has been spotted in the leaked images. The Radeon R9 Fury will see aftermarket coolers placed onto it, so we should see some very interesting cards released under the Radeon R9 Fury family.

 

Rumor2 *read note below*

AMD’s Radeon R9 ‘Fury X’ / Fiji XT GPU Currently Slower Than The Geforce GTX 980 Ti

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-fury-fiji-xt-gpu-slower-gtx-980-ti/

Computex 2015 is in full swing over at Taipei and we have received multiple reports that AMD has demonstrated the Fiji XT flagship, rumored to be called the Fury X GPU, to its partners. The interesting news is however that in its current state – the Radeon R9 Fury X GPU does not beat the GTX 980 Ti in terms of gaming performance. Do note however, that this is a prototype product and AMD is still working on improving the card.

**note**

After posting this rumor I tried to find the origin of this and it is hardwareluxx, which looks to be the source of the die pic. This is what the original article says:

"Clock speeds of GPU and memory were sadly not betrayed. The cards also can't run in their current form, as no BIOS is present. It can therefore only be switched on, but no image will appear on a screen."
...
"The partner did hint at the performance. Apparently the Radeon Fury X ought to be slower than the GeForce GTX 980 Ti. Currently, AMD is still trying to optimize higher clock rates and is making adjustments to the driver's performance."

http://www.hardwareluxx.com/index.php/news/hardware/vgacards/35572-computex-amd-fiji-aka-fury-x-slower-than-geforce-gtx-980-ti.html

What that probably means is that the Fiji card is an engineering sample, not the final product.  Because of that, the performance is still up in the air. Even wccftech has an update on their article:

Our sources close to AMD have reported that any reports of performance issues at this time are pointless. We have concrete confirmation that the GPU will launch at E3 – so we have something to look forward to very soon and will get a chance to see its final performance as well.



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OK, call me a low-power hipster, but for me the bad news is watercooling!



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http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Leaked-AMD-Fiji-Card-Images-Show-Small-Form-Factor-Water-Cooler-Integration



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

FIJI CHIPS SHOWN AT COMPUTEX, but not the cards

http://videocardz.com/56050/amd-fiji-officially-shown-at-computex-2015

That thing is huge!

Also E3 reveal confirmed

 

Also, to post something that is not only GPU related, AMD also revealed their new Carrizo APUs. No reviews yet, but we have some details

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9319/amd-launches-carrizo-the-laptop-leap-of-efficiency-and-architecture-updates

Sometimes a name can inspire change. Carrizo isn’t one of those names, and when hearing the words ‘AMD’s notebook processor’, those words have not instilled much hope in the past, much to AMD’s chagrin no doubt. Despite this, we come away from Carrizo with a significantly positive impression because this feels more than just another Bulldozer-based update.

If you can say in a sentence ‘more performance, less power and less die area’, it almost sounds like a holy trifecta of goals a processor designer can only hope to accomplish. Normally a processor engineer is all about performance, so it takes an adjustment in thinking to focus more so on power, but AMD is promising this with Carrizo. Part of this will be down to the effectiveness of the high density libraries (which according to the slides should also mean less power or more performance for less die area) but also the implementation of the higher bandwidth encoder, new video playback pathway and optimization of power through the frequency planes. Doubling the L1 data cache for no loss in latency will have definite impacts to IPC, as well as the better prefetch and branch prediction.

Technically, on paper, all the blocks in play look exciting and every little margin can help AMD build a better APU. It merely requires validation of the results we have been presented along with a killer device to go along with it, something which AMD has lacked in the past and reviewers have had trouble getting their hands on. We are in discussions with AMD to get the sufficient tools to test independently a number of the claims, and to see if AMD’s Carrizo has potential.



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