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Goodnightmoon on 02 May 2015
ryuzaki57 said:
Goodnightmoon said:


 
You see it now?

I see a bunch of biaised journalists praising Nintendo for whichever reason, and the rest of the population buying PS4 and X1 because they don't care jackshit about what the above-mentioned journalists say. 

Look at the user score too.

Journalist and consumers thinking the same about the games (once they have played it) ... suspicious, it must be some kind of conspiracy, because its impossible that those games are so good... right?



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ryuzaki57 on 02 May 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
ryuzaki57 said:

I see a bunch of biaised journalists praising Nintendo for whichever reason, and the rest of the population buying PS4 and X1 because they don't care jackshit about what the above-mentioned journalists say. 

Look at the user score too.

Journalist and consumers thinking the same about the games (once they have played it) ... suspicious, it must be some kind of conspiracy, because its impossible that those games are so good... right?

A few hundreds of Nintendo enthusiats loving their Nintendo games doesn't prove anything. Millions of people buying PS4 over WiiU do.



 

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Goodnightmoon on 02 May 2015
ryuzaki57 said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Look at the user score too.

Journalist and consumers thinking the same about the games (once they have played it) ... suspicious, it must be some kind of conspiracy, because its impossible that those games are so good... right?

A few hundreds of Nintendo enthusiats loving their Nintendo games doesn't prove anything. Millions of people buying PS4 over WiiU do.

Milions of people buying Pitbull music proves that Pitbull is a great musician.

Milions of people buying Cod over anything else proves that Cod is the best game on the market.

A milion of people buying The Order proves that the game is fantastic.

Sells=/=Quality

Hype + Marketing = sells, quality is not need it.





Ljink96 on 02 May 2015

Eh, that's expected. It simply has more games that people like. Games are still being made for it. TBH, Wii U deserved Wii's sales but we all know how that went. If only Wii had gone HD like Miyamoto said it should. Stupid ole' Iwata. Just kidding, I like Iwata.



yniq on 02 May 2015

The issue that europe has is that most of the "gamers" play on the PC.  And all the dudes, that  play Videogames like 1-2 times a week are playing

Fifa , GTA and CoD because its "cool". I mean who plays that nintendo kiddy stuff....phaa. Funny to see that the most guys in my age group seem 

to enjoy those kiddy nintendo games more than the actual cool 18+ games.

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DonFerrari on 02 May 2015
97alexk said:
Notevenfunnyanymore said:


See that is your problem
Those are a lot of games coming for the WiiU but those are mainly games that won't even sell to the existing WiiU owners.
Bayonetta 2 is soooooo goood OMG awesome² and it will never reach 1 Million units sold...Aren't there like nearly 10 Million sold WiiUs?
When not even the people owning a WiiU will buy it why would it get people into buying a console for it?
This goes for 95% of those games you listed - Those may be decent/good games but they don't sell and are even less system sellers.
Splatoon will bomb - A "shooter" without voice chat?Who should this atract?Kids?Adults?Kids play Call of Duty and stuff and so do adults.

And you forget - 99% of 3rd Party Games are exclusive to consoles not named WiiU
Star Wars Battlefront on the PS4 will sell probably in the first 7 days more than everything on your list not having Mario and Zelda in its name...COMBINED.
Metal Gear,Witcher,Batman and every other 3rd Party game are what people want and those aren't on the WiiU.
Hell why would anyone pick Call of Duty on the WiiU if there is a PS4/X1 Version?The WiiU is the only platform Call of Duty is selling like poo...i mean wtf?Call of Duty selling bad?
People want flawless and good working Online Gaming - The Online functions of the WiiU are at best on par with the Dreamcast.Its so far behind on the things that the GENERAL PUBLIC want and need in these days.

"And also some 3rd Parties are coming"
Project Cars...did they even talk about that version since they announced the much superior PS4 and X1 Versions?Games like that won't get people interested into buying a WiiU if there are 3(if PC Version available) Versions.

All those games you mentioned won't mean shit and won't get the 0815 gamer into buying a WiiU
The best versions of Call of Duty,Star Wars Battlefront,Metal Gear Solid,Batman,FIFA(THIS IS A HUGE ONE FOR EUROPE) and many others are what people want.
I will buy a WiiU mainly for Zelda(nostalgia) and so do others with games that are important to them - They are interested in 1-2 games and are done with that console cause it doesn't appeal to the mass market.
3rd Party is mainly selling consoles and WIiU doesn't even get 10% of those.

Oh and the console is currently priced far to high for what it offers
You get the complete package(PS4) for 400$ and a slightly worse version of it(the X1) for less.
The WIiU needs a pricecut down to 100-150$ cause that is the price it is worth especially with the X1 coming down so fast in price.

that doesnt matter at all. If you dont think a game is good like call of duty or FIFA, it doesnt matter if it sells million or just one copy. It does matter for the people who make the game, but not for the gamers. I mean if it just sold decently enough so they can improve for their next game thats mostly all it needs, but it does sell millions and thats ofc good for alot of people. But in my opinion idc. Example Donkey Kong country tropical freeze is one of the best games i ever played, i do mention it quite alot.It just sold 1 million. But thats enough for the producers and for me. idc how good it sold it was an fantastic game. So it doesnt really matter alot how much something sells (from a gamers perspective), look at the gamecube and thats games. Gamecube has become a cult classic and heres something important. Holding the integrity of a video game franchise is more important then getting is released really quick and earn alot of millions of dollars from it, im sure most people who produce games want to earn alot of money, everyone wants thats, but i still think because a video game is almost like art, well good video games they really want to create something special. we can all talk about sales and stuff but in the end if the Wii U has better quality games. idc how good the system sells. I also dont care for most third party. ALot of other people do though, and i seen alot of people wanting COD black Ops 3 for Wii U, there are already big petitions for it.So you exeggerated your text a little bit, but some things you said were more true and some were a bit more incorrect :) happy gaming


Hope to see you giving this same speach when someone brings Mario and some other Ninty games selling good.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 02 May 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
ryuzaki57 said:

A few hundreds of Nintendo enthusiats loving their Nintendo games doesn't prove anything. Millions of people buying PS4 over WiiU do.

Milions of people buying Pitbull music proves that Pitbull is a great musician.

Milions of people buying Cod over anything else proves that Cod is the best game on the market.

A milion of people buying The Order proves that the game is fantastic.

Sells=/=Quality

Hype + Marketing = sells, quality is not need it.

Quality in this regard is relative... no one buy something thinking it's rubbish, so for the general population yes Pitbull is good music (it's idiotic, but that is how thing is).

So until Nintendo and its fans keep trying to deny reality they will never get better... the console don't sell because gamers aren't interested in what it have to offer. Be nintendo quality software or not (which funny most non-nintendo fans try to deny... but nintendo fans often try to paint all else as rubish) general consumer don't care about their games, so this is useless discussion.

About OP... why would any company cut support for something the market still wants?? The ones that cut support are customer, as soon as sales dwindle the companies stop producing it. So since WiiU is selling less than PS3 should Nintendo drop it?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

chakkra on 02 May 2015

Well, I do not live in Europe, but I'll tell you why I chose the PS3 over the Wii U this last Christmas. I had been thinking a lot about this decision because the two consoles had great games I wanted to play, but in the end I chose the PS3 because it had a lot more games, it was cheaper, the games are cheaper, and because of its BluRay capabilities.

Now let me tell you the anecdotical story of a friend of mine. He is kind of a casual gamer (well, he loves games but he is basically broke so he cannot afford to go all hardcore like most people on this site), and he was talking me about the Wii U and "how cool" he thought the GamePad was, and he wanted to know what I thought about it. I responded to him: "well, that depends. Which games do want to play in the future?" and he answered really excited : "The latest COD, FarCry, Batman and Mortal Kombat"

After I explained to him that he would not be able to play these games on the Wii U, he decided to buy a PS3 instead.

Sooo,  to be honest, in my opinion, for the new gamers that are just entering the gaming arena (and probably for those who are upgrading from the Wii) the PS3 looks like the best option out of them all. It is cheaper than the 8th gen and it has WAY more games.