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Sony FY2014 Earnings (2.4m PS4 + 400k PS3, 450k PSV + PSP)

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ethomaz said:
More data now that I could read the doc in the right way

FY14: ~$1.1 billion loss
Q4 FY14: ~$850 million loss

Ouch.........thought Sony was on their way to at least break even.



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Dark_Feanor said:
ethomaz said:

Yeap... it is the same rofl.

Sony shipped 6.4m (holiday) + 2.7m and so we are estimating 400k units from 6.4m was sold in the next quarter after a strong holiday.

After launch MS shipped 1.2m + 900k (this is combined)... lol it was really normal lol lol lol

If you can see the difference and which period of the year that happened then I can't try to explain to you how apples are difference from oranges lol


Please, explain. I don´t get the difference. 

Last year people were talking as if the XOne sold zero units on Q2 and Q3. So much overshiping and cluged supply chain. That were even a guy on Forbes saying the 360 sold twice as much the XOne, because he simply repeat the 360 previous year numbers.

Of corse we have to blame MS for not disclaiming the sales figures. But there was/are no reason on heaven or earth for the 360 selling that well when we know the PS3 numbers.

But, please. Don´t give your opinion as facts. 

I think the point is its normal to over ship before xmas, and then undership after to reduce left over stock, but MS got to the point where they had to ship almost nothing at all, not just a reduced amount. 



sales2099 said:
ethomaz said:
More data now that I could read the doc in the right way

FY14: ~$1.1 billion loss
Q4 FY14: ~$850 million loss

Ouch.........thought Sony was on their way to at least break even.

Dude, seriously? Try harder please, the loss for this fiscal year was known for ages.



Dark_Feanor said:
ethomaz said:

Yeap... it is the same rofl.

Sony shipped 6.4m (holiday) + 2.7m and so we are estimating 400k units from 6.4m was sold in the next quarter after a strong holiday.

After launch MS shipped 1.2m + 900k (this is combined)... lol it was really normal lol lol lol

If you can see the difference and which period of the year that happened then I can't try to explain to you how apples are difference from oranges lol


Please, explain. I don´t get the difference. 

Last year people were talking as if the XOne sold zero units on Q2 and Q3. So much overshiping and cluged supply chain. That were even a guy on Forbes saying the 360 sold twice as much the XOne, because he simply repeat the 360 previous year numbers.

Of corse we have to blame MS for not disclaiming the sales figures. But there was/are no reason on heaven or earth for the 360 selling that well when we know the PS3 numbers.

But, please. Don´t give your opinion as facts. 

While there is some rationale to it all, I feel it is exaggerated/played down by our current gens meta mentality. WIth PS4 the clear winner, rough edges will be 
smoothed over and Xbox blunders will be exagerated.

After all, people can and will make their console purchase look as stable and successful as possible.



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DerNebel said:
sales2099 said:
ethomaz said:
More data now that I could read the doc in the right way

FY14: ~$1.1 billion loss
Q4 FY14: ~$850 million loss

Ouch.........thought Sony was on their way to at least break even.

Dude, seriously? Try harder please, the loss for this fiscal year was known for ages.

Seriously. While you assure me that Sony would post a loss is like expecting the sun to set at night, I actually thought things were turning around (I honestly thought < $500m loss).

I was reading they increased profit projections. Must have been for FY2015. My bad.



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sales2099 said:
DerNebel said:
sales2099 said:

Ouch.........thought Sony was on their way to at least break even.

Dude, seriously? Try harder please, the loss for this fiscal year was known for ages.

Seriously. While you assure me that Sony would post a loss is like expecting the sun to set at night, I actually thought things were turning around (I honestly thought < $500m loss).

I was reading they increased profit projections. Must have been for FY2015. My bad.

They have quadrupled operating profit projections for next year, yes.

And the loss recorded this year is also about $500m smaller than initially projected I think.



DerNebel said:

They have quadrupled operating profit projections for next year, yes.

And the loss recorded this year is also about $500m smaller than initially projected I think.

Nope, Sony previously projected to lose $2.2 billion, so their initial projection was twice the actual loss.



Well, ps4 price cut in 2015 is now confirmed. Sony have a forecast to sell more ps4 units, but less money coming in and less profit. PRICE CUT CONFIRMED. You heard it here first.



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Well... of course good sales, but damn... i expect MUCH more for PS4... O.o
Also: XB360 > PS3 again...



Did they throw the bulk of morpheus R&D into this quarter so the next FY won't be so affected, making the final quarter negative for Game Division? But the important thing is all the divisions expected to make a positive operating income for the year have done so, Including TV, and sufficient to overcome the negative operating income from the divisions expected to post losses for the year.

Mobile has had a terrible reversal.

Forecasting a reduced income for game with an increased shipments of PS4. Drop in other hardware plus price cut for PS4 will account for that.



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