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Sony FY2014 Earnings (2.4m PS4 + 400k PS3, 450k PSV + PSP)

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ethomaz said:
Dr.Vita said:
Is PS Vita overtracked on this site?

Last time I checked it was undertracked but it was months ago... maybe adjustments happened.


450k PS Vita sold. 
VGChartz says that it sold 530k by now in 2015. 

Don't understand it...



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Dr.Vita said:

450k PS Vita sold. 
VGChartz says that it sold 530k by now in 2015. 

Don't understand it...

It is not a issue if Sony overshipped in Q3 FY14 and it is only working with the old invenctory.

PS4 shipped 2.4m this quarter but sold more than that too because they have 1.4m on shelves at end of 2014.



ethomaz said:

sonyfan2000 said:

what are u talking about?
sony ps4 sold through numbers are down 50k units in the us (tracked by npd)
sony ps4 sold through numbers are down 100k+ units in japan (tracked by media create and famitsu)
sony ps4 sell in numbers are down 600k units

nothing! indicates, that sony is up in sold trough the first quarter of 2015 globally

That is why you don't use Globally in US or Globally in Japan data to make WW maths.

2014: 1.8m in 64 days
2015: 1.7m in 56 days

Unless you believe PS4 didn't sell 100k in 8 days then PS4 is UP yoy using the lastest sold thought data.

We can wait the next sold tought data.

PS. The sell in numbers are cleary saying they used invenctory shipped in Q3 FY14... that is why they did shipped less than last year... they sold 1.7 million in Jan + Feb... so they really sold more than 2.4m shipped this quarter (my personal estimates put sold thought for Q4 FY14 at ~2.8m).


Do you know the "sugaring the pill" expression?



Just to make clear something here...

Sony is releasing two types of numbers for us:

Shipped: 22.3m as of March 31, 2015
Sold thought: 20.2m as of March 1, 2015

They are way different numbers to work with... and the dates are not comparables too.



ethomaz said:

Dr.Vita said:

450k PS Vita sold. 
VGChartz says that it sold 530k by now in 2015. 

Don't understand it...

It is not a issue if Sony overshipped in Q3 FY14 and it is only working with the old invenctory.

PS4 shipped 2.4m this quarter but sold more than that too because they have 1.4m on shelves at end of 2014.


Aaah, understand it. Good explanation!



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Dark_Feanor said:

Do you know the "sugaring the pill" expression?

No.

If you believe Sony only sold 700k PS4 in March with NPD showing 336k and Japan over 150k then fine... that is what left to reach 2.4m (the number of consoles shipped).

They decreased the units on shelves from 1.4m at end of the last year to about 1 million... it is normal after holidays.

Last year that didn't happen because they have less than 300k on shelves... they needed to increase invenctory.



ethomaz said:

No.

If you believe Sony only sold 700k PS4 in March with NPD showing 336k and Japan over 150k then fine... that is what left to reach 2.4m (the number of consoles shipped).

They decreased the units on shelves from 1.4m at end of the last year to about 1 million... it is normal after holidays.

Last year that didn't happen because they have less than 300k on shelves... they needed to increase invenctory.


Interesting, so, when this happened to Microsoft it was a catastrofic inventory missmanaging, a compeling evidence that XOne was dying.

But when does Sony... it´s is normal.

Right?



More data now that I could read the doc in the right way

FY14: ~$1.1 billion loss
Q4 FY14: ~$850 million loss



Dark_Feanor said:

Interesting, so, when this happened to Microsoft it was a catastrofic inventory missmanaging, a compeling evidence that XOne was dying.

But when does Sony... it´s is normal.

Right?

Yeap... it is the same rofl.

Sony shipped 6.4m (holiday) + 2.7m and so we are estimating 400k units from 6.4m was sold in the next quarter after a strong holiday.

After launch MS shipped 1.2m + 900k (this is combined)... lol it was really normal lol lol lol

If you can see the difference and which period of the year that happened then I can't try to explain to you how apples are difference from oranges lol



ethomaz said:

Yeap... it is the same rofl.

Sony shipped 6.4m (holiday) + 2.7m and so we are estimating 400k units from 6.4m was sold in the next quarter after a strong holiday.

After launch MS shipped 1.2m + 900k (this is combined)... lol it was really normal lol lol lol

If you can see the difference and which period of the year that happened then I can't try to explain to you how apples are difference from oranges lol


Please, explain. I don´t get the difference. 

Last year people were talking as if the XOne sold zero units on Q2 and Q3. So much overshiping and cluged supply chain. That were even a guy on Forbes saying the 360 sold twice as much the XOne, because he simply repeat the 360 previous year numbers.

Of corse we have to blame MS for not disclaiming the sales figures. But there was/are no reason on heaven or earth for the 360 selling that well when we know the PS3 numbers.

But, please. Don´t give your opinion as facts.