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Nice to see the PS4 doing good.



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playsation sales are down 25% YoY, while 
xbox sales are down 20% YoY
Ps4 sales are down 20%, too

the gaming market doesn't look that great.
it will make a transition to less sales, but making more money per user

 

this does not look good for calendar year 2015
sonys ps4 sales won't be up by much
15-17m sales at BEST (CY 2014 was 15.4m)



what were Sony projections for the PS4?



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maximrace said:
So can someone figure out with the PS3 numbers who is ahead, I think it's the 360?


sony ps3 shipments are below 87m units as of 31 march 2015
xb360 is either a decent marging ahed, or the xbox one is stelling way better, than most think

Troll_Whisperer said:

PS3:

FY06 - 3.5 million 
FY07 - 9.1 million
FY08 - 10.1 million
FY09 - 13.0 million
FY10 - 14.3 million
FY11 - 13.9 million
FY12 - 16.5 million (includes PS2)
FY13 - 7.1 million
FY14 - 3.1 million

Total= 90.6m - PS2 FY12.

 

PS3 Should be over 88m easily, it's heavily undertracked here.

no you are completely wrong


ps shipped 80m as of early november 2013
in that quarter (october - december 2013 they shipped 3.3 ps3)

so ps3 shipments are at 87m maximum (this would mean the did not ship one single unit in october 2013)

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Vita is still doing quite well because PSP shipments must be minimal right now. So it's probably shipping the same as PS3.



...Let the Sony Domination continue with the PS4...
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Not a great quarter for PS, to be honest, even if we consider the PS4s japanese launch was in the same quarter last year then that still doesn't make this YoY drop anything more than, kind of disappointing. I'm assuming The Order and the Vita can be blamed for the operating loss this quarter.

PS4 sales are expected to increase (interesting that no PS3 or handheld forecast is given) but revenue and operating profit are expected to be flat/slightly down, which the drop in PS3 sales and unfavourable exchange rates are blamed for. Now to be optimistic one could say that Sony adjusted last years PS forecast up a couple times and still beat it, so these results could end up a lot better, but for that to happen I'd say that a price cut and at least one software heavy hitter is needed. OI margin forecasts are still low, probably due to the Vita and just certain 1st party/Sony published titles bombing which unfortunately is par for the course for Sony, I'm sure everyone already has quite a few Sony titles that they expect to flop this year, I know I do.

Overall I think better results for the division are possible it's just a matter of Sony taking the opportunities.

Oh and that article that counted stronger than expected PS4 sales as a reason for the OI forecast revision seems to have been completely bullshitting.



16M PS4s shipped for FY2015 prediction, price cut this year confirmed. 



DerNebel said:
Not a great quarter for PS, to be honest, even if we consider the PS4s japanese launch was in the same quarter last year then that still doesn't make this YoY drop anything more than, kind of disappointing. I'm assuming The Order and the Vita can be blamed for the operating loss this quarter.

PS4 sales are expected to increase (interesting that no PS3 or handheld forecast is given) but revenue and operating profit are expected to be flat/slightly down, which the drop in PS3 sales and unfavourable exchange rates are blamed for. Now to be optimistic one could say that Sony adjusted last years PS forecast up a couple times and still beat, so these results could end up a lot better, but for that to happen I'd say that a price cut and at least one software heavy hitter is needed. OI margins are still low, probably due to the Vita and just certain 1st party/Sony published titles bombing which unfortunately is par for the course for Sony, I'm sure everyone already has quite a few Sony titles that they expect to flop this year, I know I do.

Overall I think better results for the division are possible it's just a matter of Sony taking the opportunities.

Oh and that article that counted stronger than expected PS4 sales as a reason for the OI forecast revision seems to have been completely bullshitting.

Yeah they took a risk with The Order: 1886 which obviously didn't pay off. It was a decent game, and had great atmosphere and feel, but it was in need of many improvements like more amount of gameplay. I guess that's too much to ask now, as a sequel will likely never be made :(

I think both Driveclub and LBP3 flopped, for obvious reasons.

I also think they should drop the Vita in US and Europe, and massively reduce production.



SWORDF1SH said:

16M PS4s shipped for FY2015 prediction, price cut this year confirmed. 


only up 1.2m units form FY2014
that seems low for a 100$ pricecut. 
but maybe we'll see 50 only

CY2014 shipments were 15.4m btw
I can see 15 - 16.5m for CY2015



New numbers and upped revision, time to update total shipped numbers for Ps4 and ps3. Torwards 50% marketshare.



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