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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony FY2014 Earnings (2.4m PS4 + 400k PS3, 450k PSV + PSP)

DonFerrari on 02 May 2015
Soundwave said:
It's over for the Vita. Let that dream die, it's stupid to be losing money on a dead end product like that. They need to basically (and I hate to say it because I own one and don't mind it at all) end Vita production for North America at least. If it was any more done here it'd be a Thanksgiving turkey.


Since WiiU is doing about the same them also kill it? maybe even erase X1 from existance as well? Only 3DS and PS4 available in the market could do wonders.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Mr.Playstation on 03 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
Soundwave said:
It's over for the Vita. Let that dream die, it's stupid to be losing money on a dead end product like that. They need to basically (and I hate to say it because I own one and don't mind it at all) end Vita production for North America at least. If it was any more done here it'd be a Thanksgiving turkey.


Since WiiU is doing about the same them also kill it? maybe even erase X1 from existance as well? Only 3DS and PS4 available in the market could do wonders.


The Wii U is atleats selling a lot of software. On the other hand the Ps Vita is neither selling software nor consoles in North America.



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DonFerrari on 03 May 2015
Mr.Playstation said:
DonFerrari said:


Since WiiU is doing about the same them also kill it? maybe even erase X1 from existance as well? Only 3DS and PS4 available in the market could do wonders.


The Wii U is atleats selling a lot of software. On the other hand the Ps Vita is neither selling software nor consoles in North America.


Yes it is.. but if by going by weekly sales is justificative to kill PSVita that basically have 0 investiment from Sony you should kill WiiU that get a lot more money throw at it with the big games (that didn't move the needle)... although I don't think any of them should be cut.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

nanzano on 03 May 2015
Acevil said:
nanzano said:

No it is even undertracked with china release, you have to considere the 1.4 million shipement last quarter, and for 2014 you have to considere the 2Miliion shipement in the quarter of the ps vita slim release which has been sold in 2014

Psp +ps vita 2013 shipement 4.1 m

Psp +ps vita 2013 shipement 3.3 m

vgchartz psvita 2013 3.1 million 

vgchartz psvita 2014 2.4 million 

so a difference of almost 2 million, psp was discountinued in 2014 --> ~1.8Millon psp shiped in 2013, which is extremly wrong ( 4.1 -1.8= 2.3 for the vita) at best 500k


PSP was discontinued in certain markets, not all (USA in January of 2014, Japan was roughly mid year in 2014, and Europe was later of that year. However since they still list Vita+PSP for most of 2014, means they are still shipping them somewhere). Also discontinue of production doesn't mean they don't have the product to sell. It just means it won't be produced for that market anymore. 

yep I know and it doesn't change what Im arguing, sales from a year include shipment for the previous one etc.. Psp sold ~97k in 2014 in japan (the country having the biggest psp sales, bigger than US or EU) which means it includes a part of 2014 shipement + almost complete 2014 shipment( in October 12 it sold 67 Unit according to M.C) so I come to the conclusion that the psp shipment in 2014 is 100k-200K(max) i.e EU and Japan (discontued during the year) + rest of the world.



                                               

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Mr.Playstation on 03 May 2015
DonFerrari said:
Mr.Playstation said:


The Wii U is atleats selling a lot of software. On the other hand the Ps Vita is neither selling software nor consoles in North America.


Yes it is.. but if by going by weekly sales is justificative to kill PSVita that basically have 0 investiment from Sony you should kill WiiU that get a lot more money throw at it with the big games (that didn't move the needle)... although I don't think any of them should be cut.


I agree and at the end of the day neither the Wii U nor the Ps Vita are the biggest commercial failures in gaming.



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DonFerrari on 03 May 2015
Mr.Playstation said:
DonFerrari said:


Yes it is.. but if by going by weekly sales is justificative to kill PSVita that basically have 0 investiment from Sony you should kill WiiU that get a lot more money throw at it with the big games (that didn't move the needle)... although I don't think any of them should be cut.


I agree and at the end of the day neither the Wii U nor the Ps Vita are the biggest commercial failures in gaming.


they are between lukewarm and decent... probably making some money (which is better than cutting and having 0) and delivering great games for users, so it is silly to ask companies to cut them.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."