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sc94597 said:
Mummelmann said:


Was that aimed at me? Since I mentioned 2000$ I mean.

A few problems with your statement, one being that hardware components is a lot more expensive in some regions, I live in one such region. Another one is that "you can crush any game out there maxed for less then $900" is simply not true. A game like Metro 2033 Redux at 1440p on ultra will eat up most hardware setups and I've seen rigs with a clocked 980 GTX struggle with even older titles. A clocked 980 GTX will be seeing 45-60 FPS on Metro Last Light Redux, for instance, that is hardly "crushing" it. Hitman: Absolution on ultra and 1440p and 8x AA on the same card will yield merely 30-36 FPS, which is considered quite poor on PC. These figures will wary based on the entire setup but 2000$ is not a huge fortune at all when it comes to true performance and anyone who spends a lot of time with PC's will tell you as much.

Reference:

http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/19726-evga-geforce-gtx-980-superclocked-acx-20/5#pagehead


I think he was referring to the OP. 

"My point is that you don't need 2000 usd rig to play modern gaems."


Still, you can't "crush" games with 900$, that budget will cover only a GPU and CPU for me here in Sweden. You don't need 2000$ to play modern games but you need that or more to pull them off at absolute max at higher resolutions, which is what I'm choosing to consider as "crushing" a game.



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m0ney said:

Guys yesterday I tried optimizing GTAV graphics settings through Nvidia Geforce Experience with single click and it did wonders - the game looks amazing and I'm getting 45-60 fps. I used to think that Experience was meant for noobs who don't know their way around settings but this made me change my thoughts.


Yeah, it actually helps me a lot on my laptop when I try to run fairly demanding games  



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lol the $2000 dollar argument is for people who go around talking about 4k, triple monitors and ultra settings.

If you are talking about 1080p and medium settings, I dont think console gamers really care that you spent extra (compared to a console) for a higher frame rate on a game that released this late on PC.

I really hope every PC gamer who spent more money on their build than a console gets better performance throughout the gen, but if you didnt spend a lot extra, expect it to fall behind on performance on the newer games. Most devs are not going to optimise their games for old configuration, and even if they do, it wont be a thorough as with consoles.

PC parts reach peak performance and optimisation near launch and then become cheaper. Consoles become cheaper as they reach their peak performance and optimisation continually improves.



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Does it play Nintendo games yet?



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fps_d0minat0r said:
lol the $2000 dollar argument is for people who go around talking about 4k, triple monitors and ultra settings.

If you are talking about 1080p and medium settings, I dont think console gamers really care that you spent extra (compared to a console) for a higher frame rate on a game that released this late on PC.

I really hope every PC gamer who spent more money on their build than a console gets better performance throughout the gen, but if you didnt spend a lot extra, expect it to fall behind on performance on the newer games. Most devs are not going to optimise their games for old configuration, and even if they do, it wont be a thorough as with consoles.

PC parts reach peak performance and optimisation near launch and then become cheaper. Consoles become cheaper as they reach their peak performance and optimisation continually improves.


If I spend 2000$ on a rig, it won't have a chance in hell of running 4k on ultra, let alone with more than one display connected, if I want my games to run, that is. That would require much more power, you will need massive amounts of video RAM, among other things, some tests with Crysis 3 at 4k resolution with a Radeon 295X2 yielded only about 20 FPS on very high (which isn't the max), a card like that and a 4k display alone would set me back more than 2000$ and it still doesn't offer terrific performance across the board.

4K is beastly, if you want to max that, you'll need at least 4-5000$ worth of gaming rig, especially here where the hardware prices are much higher, and doubly so if I'm running more than one display on top.



Mummelmann said:
sc94597 said:
Mummelmann said:


Was that aimed at me? Since I mentioned 2000$ I mean.

A few problems with your statement, one being that hardware components is a lot more expensive in some regions, I live in one such region. Another one is that "you can crush any game out there maxed for less then $900" is simply not true. A game like Metro 2033 Redux at 1440p on ultra will eat up most hardware setups and I've seen rigs with a clocked 980 GTX struggle with even older titles. A clocked 980 GTX will be seeing 45-60 FPS on Metro Last Light Redux, for instance, that is hardly "crushing" it. Hitman: Absolution on ultra and 1440p and 8x AA on the same card will yield merely 30-36 FPS, which is considered quite poor on PC. These figures will wary based on the entire setup but 2000$ is not a huge fortune at all when it comes to true performance and anyone who spends a lot of time with PC's will tell you as much.

Reference:

http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/19726-evga-geforce-gtx-980-superclocked-acx-20/5#pagehead


I think he was referring to the OP. 

"My point is that you don't need 2000 usd rig to play modern gaems."


Still, you can't "crush" games with 900$, that budget will cover only a GPU and CPU for me here in Sweden. You don't need 2000$ to play modern games but you need that or more to pull them off at absolute max at higher resolutions, which is what I'm choosing to consider as "crushing" a game.

While $900 isn't enough for maxing certain games at 1440p/1600p, you can spend a few hundred more and do pretty well at said resolution. Here's a build I just threw together with U.S prices. Also, i think it isn't a good idea to use different countries for a price comparison. Consoles can go over $1000/1500 in certain countries, while PC parts prices remain relatively cheap in said countries. Brazil is a prime example of this. 

An $1185 build (before OS key and Keyboard + Mouse and after $90 rebates.)

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yknDNG

Much closer to $900 in the U.S than $2000 and it should pass your Metro Redux test. 

 



Dulfite said:
Does it play Nintendo games yet?

It plays everything Nintendo excluding Wii U. I played Xenoblade Chronicles through the Dolphin emulator with enhanced graphics and framerate.



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Deus Ex (2000) - a game that pushes the boundaries of what the video game medium is capable of to a degree unmatched to this very day.

m0ney said:
Dulfite said:
Does it play Nintendo games yet?

It plays everything Nintendo excluding Wii U. I played Xenoblade Chronicles through the Dolphin emulator with enhanced graphics and framerate.

And the 3DS emulator is in its early stages, so 3DS games as well. 



Mummelmann said:
Gilgamesh said:

$2000? You can play 8th gen games for under $500 and you can crush any game out there maxed for less then $900


Was that aimed at me? Since I mentioned 2000$ I mean.

A few problems with your statement, one being that hardware components is a lot more expensive in some regions, I live in one such region. Another one is that "you can crush any game out there maxed for less then $900" is simply not true. A game like Metro 2033 Redux at 1440p on ultra will eat up most hardware setups and I've seen rigs with a clocked 980 GTX struggle with even older titles. A clocked 980 GTX will be seeing 45-60 FPS on Metro Last Light Redux, for instance, that is hardly "crushing" it. Hitman: Absolution on ultra and 1440p and 8x AA on the same card will yield merely 30-36 FPS, which is considered quite poor on PC. These figures will wary based on the entire setup but 2000$ is not a huge fortune at all when it comes to true performance and anyone who spends a lot of time with PC's will tell you as much.

Reference:

http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/19726-evga-geforce-gtx-980-superclocked-acx-20/5#pagehead


Ok I probably shouldn't of used the word "crushed" but definitely playable on maxed settings and your right it depends on the countries cost. But here's a build that's $830 after rebates (still under $900) that'll play anything today.

TypeItemPrice
CPU Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $241.98 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $28.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard $100.98 @ Newegg
Memory *G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $51.99 @ Newegg
Storage *Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $48.64 @ Amazon
Video Card *XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card $239.99 @ Newegg
Case Corsair Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case $54.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply *Thermaltake 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $79.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $892.45
  Mail-in rebates -$60.00
  Total $832.45