Soriku said:
HollyGamer said:
"Again, it's a natural process, not a guided one. DNA is obviously an emergent property." and yet how natural process can be made? who made it that way, it cannot be simply exist without creation,
I ask you who made the gravitational law exist, who made the quantom theory exist, who made the water look like and taste like, who made that u are human?
PS4 with those defect is far from human deffect, for human even it's deffect they can show more effort and do better then a perffect human even more for human creation dead object like PS4.
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I ask you:
1. How do you know these things were created, instead of just being natural properties of the universe? If you just say "of course they had to be created, how could they exist" otherwise, I can ask the same of your god. Who created your god?
2. How do you know these things were created by your god specifically?
Also I don't understand your last sentence.
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1. The God is created by it self becuase it simply "The Creator" it does not to Created by anything it's alpha and omega, The first and the last it exist is unlike His creation logic that need to be created.
2. Cristian God, Jews God is the same, but what bible said is wrong, i am sorry i am not saying Jesus is false what I am saying jesus is not God, He is simply human, but special Human that brought message to human, Cristian God, Hindus God, and Budhis God, a religion that believe in God have the same God, and what make it different is which one have the real message from God, and Islam and Quran is the real God Message just read it
Surah Al-Baqarah (The Cow)
1. Alif-Lam-Mim. [These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur'an and none but Allah (Alone) knows their meanings].
2. This is the Book (the Qur'an), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].
3. Who believe in the Ghaib and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and spend out of what we have provided for them [i.e. give Zakat , spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, etc., and also give charity to the poor and also in Allah's Cause - Jihad, etc.].
4. And who believe in (the Qur'an and the Sunnah) which has been sent down (revealed) to you (Muhammad Peace be upon him ) and in [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.] which were sent down before you and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter. (Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell, etc.).
5. They are on (true) guidance from their Lord, and they are the successful.
6. Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.
7. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.
8. And of mankind, there are some (hypocrites) who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day" while in fact they believe not.
9. They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!
10. In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allah has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies.
11. And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers."
12. Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.